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To: DoodleDawg
O good grief more semantic distortions. Look: you know damned well that it makes no difference that the Corwin Amendment was passed after the first states seceded as they could have returned to the Union at any time and considering that this proposed Amendment did not entice them to rejoin the Union - it stand as proof positive that secession was not over the dying institution of slavery but rather over the high tariffs which were a much larger consternation for a much larger group of people within the region.

The North was imposing high tariffs that were the MAJOR cause for Dixie wanting to become independent of the totalitarian North. If you think the Morrill Tariff was so fair - then why do you not voluntarily pay more taxes to the government yourself? After all you would not want to be called a racist mow do you?

Go look up the high tariffs that the North had imposed onto Dixie for DECADES then come back and try to assert that I am somehow "incorrect". You are simply incorrigible. The most pressing concern facing Dixie was the high tariffs as the slavery issue was only important to a very small elite who were not an accurate reflection of the average inhabitant of the Dixie region.

Quote: [ Common sense and your posts don't often collide. How could a non-slave owning state enter the Confederacy when their constitution guaranteed that slavery would be allowed in the territories and that slave owners could travel and remain in any state in the Confederacy with their slaves and nothing could be done to prevent that? ]

A little thing called decentralization. But then I would not expect an Obamanoid Lincoln worshiper like you to recognize or ascribe to this sound political notion. During the era in question each state had Tenth Amendment [ or equivalent ] protection thus would have been free to pursue their OWN policies with regards to slavery or any other issue for that matter. IE: those states that joined the CSA and wanted to outlaw slavery would certainly have been allowed to do so under the law and the Constitution.

Quote: [ Well that suggestion makes no sense at all. ]

Wrong. It makes perfect sense Lincoln Cult Worshiper. If every state in the so called Union had joined the CSA then Lincoln could not have staged his little genocidal war.

Quote: [ Just ask him. We're very close. ]

Absolute bulls***t! Now I KNOW you are an Obamanoid little troll because there is no way in hell that you would even know about let alone be "friends" with an obscure individual such as Griffith. There is no was in hell you could possibly be "very close" to someone who you have such contempt for and distort and disparage at every turn. I find quite it telling that you erroneously and laughable assert to be "very close" to Griffith yet distort his findings and did not learn a thing from the insight he brought forth.

Quote: [ Having read his stuff I confess that I'm not impressed with his scholarship. ]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! What a friggin joke! His scholarship surpasses the fetid distortions you pathetically attempt to pass of as fact.

Quote: [ LOL. You are the first person I've ever heard allege that. ]

Glad to see you exposing your ignorance further. You really do not read very much do you. Quote: [ While a recent lawsuit by a Nevada family – covered by Mother Jones, Fox News and Courthouse News– alleges bodily violation of the Third Amendment, such literal violation is rare today. However, the NSA is stationing “digital troops” within our homes, taking over our computers and phones, and interfering with the quiet use and enjoyment of our houses. As such, the NSA is arguably violating our Third Amendment rights. ]

From: Have Americans Lost ALL of Our Constitutional Rights?

Quote: [ Your contempt for constitutions and the rule of law is pretty apparent. What clause of the Confederate Constitution gave them the power to do that? ]

The clause that allows states to pursue their own laws.

Quote: [ So you're condemning Lincoln for what you see as his violations of the Constitution, but are suggesting that it would have been perfectly OK if the Southern leaders violated their constitution even more than they did? Scratch a Confederate supporter and you'll almost always find a hypocrite. ]

No sane person could ever equate the brutal repression and warmongering of Lincoln with the noble act of Davis to abolish slavery! Abolishing slavery would certainly not have violated the Constitution "more" that what Lincoln did. It would be quite difficult to surpass his Constitutional violations. I never claimed to be a Confederate supporter. Furthermore: your hypocrisy in denying Dixie what you claim for yourself is apparent. When the thirteen Colonies seceded [ that's right! ] from Britain: they owned slaves - yet few begrudge them their inherent right to self determination.

Quote: [ Only on the Southern side. For the North the war was fought to save the Union. ]

How in God's name could both sides be allegedly fighting for DIFFERENT reasons? They were fighting over whether the Union should remain intact as it was before Dixie secession. The war had NOTHING to do with the politics that led to secession!!!!! The war was fought over the fact that the CSA was independent and the North wanted to FORCE it back into the Union [ the old "get in the car - bitch!" approach to the situation. IE: Not a legitimate approach. ] The main point that even led to Dixie secession was the high tariffs at any rate. Furthermore the vast majority of fighting Southrons were fighting to maintain the independence of Dixie from a rapacious North and could not give a damn about a dying institution that they never even supported.

Quote: [ Japan didn't invade the U.S. but they sure started a war. ]

Nice try but the Fort Sumter incident did not start the war since it started MONTHS later [ Fort who? ] when the North decided to invade Dixie. Prey tell Mr. Obamanoid: where was the battle of Dixie invading the North that "started" the war eh? You cannot produce such therefore you are spinning yarns and outright defamation concerning your specious "Dixie started the war" nonsense.

Quote: [ Another one of Mike's many idiotic claims. ]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You dumbass. This telling line betrays the contempt you have for Griffith and forever puts to lie your ridiculous claim that you and he are "friends" [ ha ha ha ha ha ha! ] with him as a friend would not call him "idiotic". I think he has grounds to sue you for misrepresenting yourself as a "friend" of his and your numerous distortions of his research.

Quote: [ I've noticed that you, on rare occasions, manage to stumble over the truth. But in every case you just pick yourself up and move on. ]

Well well well: so you now ADMIT that the North could not afford Dixie to remain sovereign. Which is a tacit admission on your part that the war was fought over the tariffs and the North's new found inability to collect those tariffs now that Dixie had declared its independence in the same vein as the Founding Fathers did with Britain. What an odd statement to make considering your stubborn refusal to admit the truth.

63 posted on 07/25/2015 3:16:04 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: Republican1795.
O good grief more semantic distortions.

Oh good Lord, back again. Well I'm going to take Mark Twain's advice about arguing with stupid people to heart and let you rant on. Nothing is going to change your mind and I can live without your lame attempts at insults.

64 posted on 07/26/2015 6:06:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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