Somehow I managed to miss the part where I got trounced. Can you point me to it?
You can deny all you want how the Morrill Tariff was not in the process of bankrupting Dixie, but that does not change the facts.
Still waiting for facts.
The Morrill Tariff was passed in the House of Representatives almost of year before the CSA was formed.
And defeated in the Senate almost a year before the CSA was formed. It wasn't passed in the Senate until after the Confederacy had seceded. It didn't go into effect until after the Confederacy had seceded. So how was it bankrupting the South?
Free states could in fact join the CSA if they so chose just as slave states chose to remain part of the Union.
I strongly suggest you read the Confederate Constitution and explain to me how that would be possible in light of the protections it placed on slave ownership, especially in light of Article IV, Sections 2 and 3.
referring to the respected and knowledgeable author Michael T Griffith betraying your contempt for someone who had the nerve to expose your bankrupt narrative.
All his friends call him Mike.
You also totally forget that the Confederate Constitution can be changed and or amended just as the American Constitution was...
All we can go with is what we know and not rely on hypotheticals. Based on the Confederacy as it existed during the time Mike Griffith is talking about almost all of his claims concerning the ending of slavery are false and/or impossible.
...also forget that Presidents often act arbitrarily on certain matters [ as Lincoln did during the war and as NUMEROUS American Presidents have since done ]...
But all presidents are expected to abide by their constitution, as their oaths require them to do. Confederate supporters are always complaining about what they see are Lincoln's constitutional transgressions; are you saying that those were OK because that's what presidents do?
...therefore it would not have been out of the ordinary for President Davis to have acted as such in relation to abolishing slavery if it were to have gained the recognition of CSA independence from other countries around the world.
And again, there is absolutely nothing in the Confederate Constitution that gave him the power to do so. Any such actions on his part would have been illegal and, had there been a Confederate Supreme Court, would have made Davis liable for impeachment and removal from office.
You also forget that the CSA Congress passed a less severe tariff in the vain and futile hope that it would placate the North and avert the brewing war.
They passed that tariff in May 1861, a month after they had started the war. Their timing was a bit off.
The slander against Dixie was aimed at calumniating a people and an entire region for the crime of not submitting to oppressive taxation.
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Quote: [ All his friends call him Mike. ]
Nice try but you are certainly not one of his "friends" thus you do not have the right to call him by the diminutive version. I doubt you would like an enemy propagandist to refer to you in the third person by the diminutive version of your first name. You are obviously betraying your contempt and disrespect for a person who exposes your lies as he looked into the matter and went to primary sources.
Nice try but slavery was dying out at any rate so even if the Confederate Constitution was as iron clad as you laughably assert... it would be IRRELEVANT to the on ground reality... rather like the Third Amendment. [ Though many have also noted that spyware is a form of Third Amendment violation ] The CSA leaders were in the process of abolishing slavery for the recognition of France and others therefore no amount of Confederate Constitution semantics changes that fact.
Quote: [ But all presidents are expected to abide by their constitution, as their oaths require them to do. Confederate supporters are always complaining about what they see are Lincoln's constitutional transgressions; are you saying that those were OK because that's what presidents do? ]
Well your hero Lincoln suspended the Constitution and threw dissenters into prison so you do not have a leg to stand on. The CSA leaders almost certainly would have followed the Constitutional process and AMEND the Constitution but if they actually chose to arbitrarily abolish slavery it could hardly be compared to the draconian usurpations of the Constitution that Lincoln engaged in. Nice try - no one would have removed Davis from office for abolishing slavery which is an odd point for a Northern propagandist like yourself to make in light of the fact that you promote the discredited and erroneous notion that the war was fought over the dying institution. Nice try but Dixie did not "start the war" as they did not invade the North and the Fort Sumter incident was a marginal event that did not even lead to war. Your Northern heroes started the war when they invaded the sovereign CSA. Quote: [ Even the attack on Fort Sumter did not have to lead to war. The Confederacy made no hostile moves against any Northern state. But, two months after the Fort Sumter incident, a large Union force marched into Virginia, which led to the first major battle of the war, the Battle of Bull Run (or Manassas). ] Michael T Griffth.
The truth vindicates Dixie and expose the Northern propaganda as slanderous lies as they could not afford to allow the CSA to remain sovereign.