Posted on 07/13/2015 8:05:28 AM PDT by HomerBohn
A Union bent on totalitarianism should suffer a spilt from its states seeking sovereignty if the cause is just. Our Republic is increasingly becoming corrupted and undeniably in a decline. Don't think for a minute it couldn't happen again. If this federal government arbitrarily determines what is applicable in the U.S. Constitution and what is not for their own purposes, it deserves what it gets.
The only connection I can see is that Texas was its own country once. Once it was admitted to the Union it kept its flag, that’s true. I don’t deny that. Perhaps I am splitting hairs (hares?) but it seems to me the Confederate flag was created to highlight the separation.
Absolutely.
HOWEVER, in the articles of ratification of tge Constitution drawn up by two states, Virginia and New York, I believe, a clause was included which reserved to each of those states the right to withdraw from the Union in the event they felt their rights and sovereignty was abridged. Because the Constitutional Convention accepted those articles of ratification, they were extended to all the states.
Not entirely sure this image helps your case. It’s a US Navy ship capturing an illegal slave ship, the Martha, in 1850.
Illegal slaving was legally classified as piracy and carried the death penalty.
Since the establishment of the US as independent, slave importation was legal only in two states, GA and SC, from 1800 to 1808.
Curious, when did 1850 become “colonial?”
If you're suggesting that the Confederate flag was resurrected to symbolize the racist roots of the DemocRAT Party, I won't argue with that.
I read just the first couple of paragraphs or so. This is clearly not an official Megyn Kelly website. This was copied off of a FR CW thread where the "Vampire Hunter" Lincoln mobilized federal troops to attack the completely innocent and passive Southern military members manning Ft. Sumter.
Who knew Megyn had a clue? :-)
The United States won its’ fight for independence. The Confederate States never did win their independence and where invaded and subjugated by the Northern States.
It is one thing to declare yourself independent it is wholly different attaining independence.
Good. Stay in Texas cause you sure ain’t Dixie.
The north was growing more industrialized, while the south remained predominately agrarian. The government was pushing the south to “pay their fair share” to the federal government. The south said we can’t we don’t have it. That was the main bullet point. Slavery was a secondary point. The war was to keep the Union intact. Lincoln was not going to have the Union dissolve under him.
I have not looked to see any evidence of the articles mentioned being true but it is only common sense that the loser of the war is not going to be the one who writes the officially history.
I have always been Leary of believing the war was about slavery simply because people do not change.
It has been many years since I traveled all over the U.S but when I did I found the people in the south, both black and white a much kinder and generous people than the police mentality retards in the north..
We are all slaves to the US government and a broken system. Should we fly that flag?
That idea has been floating around the internet forever. I do believe it’s untrue.
Here’s the articles of ratification for NY.
http://www.constitution.org/rc/rat_decl-ny.htm
Here’s VA’s.
http://www.virginiamemory.com/docs/VARatify.pdf
Feel free to point out the relevant clauses.
Take a drive anywhere south of basically Austin and you will see plenty. Also, lots of Spanish only billboards and advertisements.
Secondly, Texas is not part of Dixie?
B) I would point out that California was virtually a Republican state while y'all were voting for 'RATS in Dixie all through the 50s and 60s.
Bless your hearts.
But there was no tyranny - except for that perpetrated against the slaves. There was zero totalitarianism against the south.
Slavery was legal in the Union. You are trying to measure the conditions of that time by modern ideas of morality. The Union did not fight the war to abolish slavery. They fought that war to stop Independence for Southern states.
We want to be free to enslave our fellow man!
Which they would also have been allowed to do as members of the Union. Indeed, there were five Union States in which Slavery continued all throughout the Civil War.
This is a partial reprint of an article authored by Charles Baldwin. It was being discussed last week.
Should the US flag fly lower than the state flag? Mmmmmmm. Nah.
Agreed. I’m speaking of secession as a general principle. Of course, my previous comment has nothing to do specifically with the topic of the South and the battle flag.
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