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Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do [Fact-checking the fact-checkers]
American Thinker ^ | 07/13/2015 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 07/13/2015 7:14:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s time to fact-check the fact-checkers. The Washington Post’s Michelle Yee Hee Lee gave Donald Trump four Pinocchios for saying, “They’re bringing crime” across the border from Mexico. The Post scribe added, “Trump clarified that he was referring to cases where undocumented immigrants commit violent crimes or smuggle drugs.”

First off, Trump did not put any numbers on his statements. All he said was that some undocumented immigrants commit crimes in the U.S. And we know that is true.

Secondly, as even the Washington Post admits, Trump was not talking about all Mexicans, especially not Hispanic citizens. He was talking about undocumented immigrants.

The more problematic aspect is Trump’s implication that undocumented immigrants are more criminal than the average U.S. citizen. That implication is what the Washington Post “fact checked” and found false.

The Government Accountability Office has data that show otherwise. Here is the leading sentence from a 2011 GAO report (GAO-11-187, Criminal Alien Statistics, March 2011).

“The number of criminal aliens in federal prisons in fiscal year 2010 was about 55,000, and the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state prison systems and local jails was about 296,000 in fiscal year 2009 (the most recent data available), and the majority were from Mexico.”

(SCAAP is the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program and in this context means “illegal aliens” – a GAO term meaning “Noncitizens whom ICE verified were [or whom states and local jurisdictions believe to be] illegally in America at the time of incarceration”.)

As for those federal prisoners, the GAO states, “In fiscal year 2005, the criminal alien population in federal prisons was around 27% of the total inmate population, and from fiscal years 2006 through 2010 remained consistently around 25%.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; criminalaliens; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; murderrate

1 posted on 07/13/2015 7:14:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 07/13/2015 7:15:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Here are the numbers of crimes per day committed by illegal aliens in just a few crime categories, based on those GAO numbers and the 90% figure for SCAAP persons over four years.

(You may try to compare those numbers to the FBI’s numbers for all crimes, but the categories do not match except for murder/homicide. That is part of what makes this analysis so frustrating, and ripe for cherry-picking by pro-immigrant groups.)

3 posted on 07/13/2015 7:16:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Michelle Yee Hee Lee can go piss up a tree.

If the Illegals are so wonderful, why are their home countries so desperate to get rid of them?

4 posted on 07/13/2015 7:16:34 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate the phrase “fact-checker”. It almost always is applied to those of a Leftist ideology, who support the Leftist agenda with manufactured data.

Snopes and PolitiFact come first to mind. And all their ideological butt-buddies.


5 posted on 07/13/2015 7:18:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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I don’t see domestic violence listed. But I am pretty sure it is high as well.


6 posted on 07/13/2015 7:22:00 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: SeekAndFind
It is basic common sense. I give all my illegal loving lib acquaintances the following test.

Leave your front door unlocked while you are asleep or away. When you return, what do you expect will be the most likely result of your uninvited visitors:

  1. Your best stuff has been stolen.
  2. Your home is trashed.
  3. Your home will be more cleaned and organized than how you left it.

7 posted on 07/13/2015 7:22:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I try not to have any liberal acquaintances. It’s pointless to bother trying to reason with them.


8 posted on 07/13/2015 7:37:37 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Nevadan

Child molestation and abduction is right up there also.
Drunk driving, driving without a license or insurance cause financial damage to me in possible injury and higher insurance costs


9 posted on 07/13/2015 7:40:44 AM PDT by Kozy
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So they really are doing the jobs Americans won’t do!!


10 posted on 07/13/2015 7:40:48 AM PDT by eyeamok
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If illegal one has nothing to lose, no punishment, rewards with free money and health care, why not just add crime to the fun time.


11 posted on 07/13/2015 7:46:12 AM PDT by Logical me
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3310979/posts


12 posted on 07/13/2015 7:46:53 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“What difference does it make? I have many armed bodyguards and live in a safe neighborhood and am paid big bucks by the peasants and rubes. Besides, how else can we get more undeserved votes?”

-Any politician that is a member of the Democrat Party

13 posted on 07/13/2015 7:49:11 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Kozy

Yes, those are higher as well.


14 posted on 07/13/2015 7:51:48 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: SeekAndFind

It isn’t murder when illegals kill, its “acts of love.”


15 posted on 07/13/2015 8:08:48 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Legal immigration brings in those that we need and will help our great nation,

Illegal immigration is by those that are economically at the bottom of the barrel or criminals. In all societies those at the bottom of the economic ladder commit more crime and violence. The criminals that come across are criminals. The criminals come here because they get a much higher return on their criminal activities and face much lower risks from the legal system. It is that simple.

ps
I am a gringo that speaks Spanish and is married to a Mexican Citizen now a United States Citizen. She came to the USA legally, she graduated from The University of Texas and her father paid out of country tuition. Until she retired she had high paying jobs as a computer engineer. This is how immigration is supposed to work.


16 posted on 07/13/2015 9:04:26 AM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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bkmk


17 posted on 07/13/2015 9:16:05 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how this compares to Black crime?


18 posted on 07/13/2015 10:00:29 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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19 posted on 07/13/2015 3:56:10 PM PDT by HiJinx (There is no curtain knowledge cannot penetrate, although the process can be slowed.)
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20 posted on 07/14/2015 10:37:16 AM PDT by Dante3
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