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Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

There have been times in the past when I’ve gotten crosswise with certain segments of the conservative base and/or with the readership of National Review. And, because, like the Elephant Man, I am a not an animal but a human being, I have always had at least some self-doubt. That’s as it should be. People who share principles should not only hear each other out when they disagree; they should be able to see each other’s points and hold open the possibility that one’s opponents have the better argument.

This is not one of those times, at least not for me.

I truly, honestly, and with all my heart and mind think Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters are making a yuuuuuuge mistake. I think they are being conned and played. I feel like a guy whose brother is being taken advantage of by a grifter. I’m watching helplessly as the con artist congratulates him for taking out a third mortgage.

Anger Is Not an Argument

Now, before I go on, let me clarify a few things. I get it. The base of the party is angry. They’re angry about Obama’s lawless chicanery on immigration. They’re angry about the GOP’s patented inability to cross the street without stepping on its own d*ck and then having to apologize for it. They’re angry that the Left’s culture warriors are behaving like an invading army that shoots the survivors even after they’ve surrendered. They’re angry that Republicans have to bend over backward so as not to offend anyone, while Democrats have free rein (and at times free reign) to do and to say as they please.

Enter Trump, stage left. He makes no apologies. He’s brash. I can understand why some see him as a breath of fresh air. If you want to give him credit for starting a worthwhile debate about sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, fine. I think that argument is way overdone, but certainly reasonable enough.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud.

Maybe you just like him. On that, we can respectfully disagree, as there is no accounting for taste. Perhaps you just like his musk and the way it assaults your nostrils, which is fitting, given his line of cologne. Fine.

I, on the other hand, find him tedious, tacky, and trite. He’s a bore who overcompensates for his insecurities by talking about how awesome he is, often in the third person. Jonah can’t stand that.

You see the next Teddy Roosevelt and all I see is someone who talks big and carries a small schtick.

’Sup Britches?

In words George Will shall never write, this is a good moment to talk about my pants. Earlier this week, Donald Trump attacked Charles Krauthammer and me. By the way, I don’t blame Trump one bit for his hostility. I’d hate me too, if I were him. Still I do marvel at how this supposed Master of the Universe can be unnerved by such criticism. If it takes so little effort for me to set up shop in his head, by all means, let’s give him thermonuclear weapons.

Anyway, when asked about me, he said:

I’m worth a fortune. . . . I went out, I made a fortune, a big fortune, a tremendous fortune . . . bigger than people even understand. . . . Then I get called [a failure] by a guy that can’t buy a pair of pants, I get called names?

As the intern said to Bill Clinton, this puts me in a weird position. I don’t like to brag, but I’m actually quite adept at buying pants. I don’t enjoy it. But I can do it. It never occurred to me to put it in my bio or anything — “Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a successful pants-buyer” — but maybe I should.

Now, I will say that I sometimes choose not to wear pants, and not just because I’m so fond of my spaghetti-strainer codpiece (which affords me the satisfaction of telling really attractive women, “Hey, my eyes are up here. Thank you very much”). But these are my choices. If I want to identify as a pantless American, who are you to say otherwise?

More to the point, what I find so gaudy about Trump is his constant reference to the fact that he made a lot of money, and his expectation that it somehow makes him immune to criticism or means that he’s a better person than his GOP competitors, never mind yours truly.

The Trump-Pets Blare

Moreover, I find it horribly disappointing that his fans like this about him. If you met someone in real life who talked this way, you would think he’s a jerk. But somehow he’s awesome when he does it on TV?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he ‘tells it like it is.’ Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing.

His biggest fans disappoint in other ways as well. I marvel at how they can simultaneously despise Obama’s arrogance but revel in Trump’s. (I chuckle at all of the people who tell me he’s a heroic truth-teller for “telling it like it is” and “calling it as he sees it” but who at the same time fume at me when I tell it like it is about Trump and call it as I see it.)

But most grating of all are the people who sincerely think he should be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.

On this, I’m afraid we’re going to have to disrespectfully disagree. First of all, he’ll never be president of the United States. I won’t go into all of the reasons I think this, but a few off the top of my head: his enormous negatives, even among Republicans; the Midas’s hoard of oppo-research material that surely lurks beneath the surface; and his comments about women, which alone would turn the gender gap into a chasm. To borrow a line from Mark Steyn, a President Trump would have more ex-wives than the previous 44 presidents combined.

But my objection isn’t to the political analysis of Trump supporters. It’s their judgment of the man that stews the bowels.

The Purest RINO

​Which gets me back to the grifter thing.

I’ve written many times about how I hate the term RINO because conservatives should consider themselves Republicans in Name Only. The Republican Party is a vessel, a tool for achieving conservative ends. It’s nothing more than a team. Conservatism is different. It’s a body of ideas, beliefs, and temperaments. The amazing thing is that Trump is both a RINO and a CINO. I’m sure he has some authentic and sincere conservative views down in there somewhere. But the idea that he’s more plausibly conservative — or more loyally Republican — than Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, or any of the others is just flatly absurd. It is vastly more plausible that he is a stalking horse for his dear friend Hillary Clinton than he is a sincere conservative.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud. The conversation would go something like this:

Immigration: You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a “path to citizenship” for 30 million illegal immigrants:

Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.

Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?

Abortion: In 1999 he said, “I’m totally pro-choice. I hate it and I hate saying it. And I’m almost ashamed to say that I’m pro-choice but I am pro-choice because I think we have no choice.”

Man, it’s like he’s channeling Thomas Aquinas there.

Now he says he’s pro-life. But I’ll spare the mocking on this because at least he’s flip-flopping in the right direction, and I don’t like to second guess peoples’ professed religious convictions.

Obamacare: The man wrote in his own book and said elsewhere that he was in favor of Canadian-style socialized medicine — which would put him to the left of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and on pretty much the same page as Bernie Sanders.

Hillary: Speaking of her, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her health-care reform plan — in 2007! She attended his (most recent) wedding. He donated to her campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation. In 2008, he couldn’t get his head around the fact that Obama didn’t pick her for VP. “I’m a big fan of Hillary. She’s a terrific woman. She’s a friend of mine.”

Economics: People tout the guy’s business record. But he represents almost exactly what his supporters think he opposes. He’s a crony capitalist par excellence. He gives to whatever politician can grease the skids for his next deal — and he makes no apologies for it. He’s an eminent-domain voluptuary. He abuses bankruptcy laws like a stack of homemade get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Parlez vous Conservative?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he “tells it like it is.” Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing. He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

“The people of Nebraska are for free silver, and I am for free silver,” Bryan announced. “I will look up the arguments later.” That is Trump’s approach. He’s saying what understandably angry people want to hear him say.

He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney, at least in one respect. I always said that Romney “spoke conservatism as a second language” (a line some people ripped off, btw). That’s why Romney called himself a “severe conservative,” talked about how he “likes to fire people,” and anathematized the “47 percent.”

Trump is even less truly conservative, but he’s trying to speak in an even grubbier dialect of conservatism. And, having grown up in the tabloid politics of New York, he’s better at faking it.

Eventually, I suspect, this will be the cause of his undoing. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know about conservatism, and at some point he will say something that even his biggest fans will recognize as a damning revelation about the real man beneath the schtick. The only question is whether he implodes before or after he does permanent damage to the GOP’s chances in 2016.

The Conservative Heart

Look, these are rough times for conservatives, for reasons too lengthy, and all too familiar, to go into here. But none of our problems — demographic, political, cultural — can be solved unless conservatives take the cause of persuasion to heart. All of our problems can be fixed by convincing people to join our cause. That is what politics is about — persuading people that their interests and concerns are better addressed by coming to our side. And, given the degraded nature of our culture, I won’t deny that having a celebrity on our side has its utility. But it’s only helpful if that celebrity convinces people to switch sides. As a purely mathematical proposition, it is insane to believe that Donald Trump will convert more voters than he will repel.

For those who are interested in persuasion, I heartily recommend Arthur Brooks’s new book, The Conservative Heart (full disclosure: He’s my boss at AEI and a friend). I’ll be writing more about it in the future because I think it’s an important book. But I will say for now that it is almost a mirror image of Trump’s approach. It’s thoughtful, humble, fact- and data-driven, and informed by a deep moral case for conservatism. It won’t satisfy your desire to scream at the opposition, but it will equip you to explain to the opposition why they are wrong............


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To: miss marmelstein
Jonah Goldberg has turned into another whiny bitch. He says he gets it about conservative anger at GOPe, but does he? The House just passed Common Core.

I feel like Hank Rearden at his meeting with all the looters. The code of GOPe has been unlocked, and it's as much of an oligarchy as the Democrats are socialist.

Jonah can stick his intervention down his mom pants.

121 posted on 07/11/2015 4:42:03 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

If Jeb got the nomination and Trump ran third party, would you vote for Trump? I would.


122 posted on 07/11/2015 4:42:38 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: AdaGray

...”The GOP is paying the price for not listening to its base. Let the chips fall where they may. I am enjoying watching the RINOs (Goldberg include) squirm.”...

Sadly, yes.


123 posted on 07/11/2015 4:42:42 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jonah, Trump is the measure of the Republican stupidity. THEY created the vacuum.


124 posted on 07/11/2015 4:42:43 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I remember that.

I remember Trump giving an interview at that time, espousing socially liberal views, and thanking God he wasn’t going to be President.


125 posted on 07/11/2015 4:44:04 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

...”Fan also stands for Fantastic, as in fantastic someone finally had the courage to say seal the border, stop the mass immigration insanity.”...

Yes and just look at the punishment which followed for speaking the truth.


126 posted on 07/11/2015 4:44:19 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why did Jonah Goldberg repeat that line twice? Very unusual.


127 posted on 07/11/2015 4:44:31 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Night Hides Not

Jonah, again thanks to Mom, is rich and famous and doesn’t give a hoot about the people living in NYC walk-ups or those who live in “fly-over” country. He’s got his, he’s part of the corrupt and wealthy Beltway, and that’s all there is to it. Happened to Peggy Noonan and that Kathleen Parker hag as well.


128 posted on 07/11/2015 4:45:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: olezip
The only mistake is being made by those who criticize Trump without addressing the substance of his statements. Could it be preconceived notions? Trump can be "neutralized" in a heart beat if other candidates would address the issues as plainly as Trump does. Otherwise there is no competition. The people of this country are being run over and ignored by both parties. People being ignored are those being hurt by criminals who move through lax borders. People being ignored are the legal immigrants who are being hurt by criminals who repeatedly are deported and return to sanctuary cities to commit more crimes. ..."Whenever the other candidates connect the dots and respond to the will of the people, there will be second thoughts. Otherwise, Trump is the only game in town! Our country continues to be humiliated by bad trade deals and lip service to border security. 62 posted on ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2015‎ ‎6‎:‎11‎:‎48‎ ‎AM by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)..." Well said.
129 posted on 07/11/2015 4:46:07 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ll say this.

In the last year of his life, Ed McMahon was very sick and bankrupt. He was losing his home, IIRC.

Donald Trump helped him out - without a lot of fanfare.

Because of that, I respect Trump. I won’t vote for him, but I do respect him.


130 posted on 07/11/2015 4:48:00 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Precisely.


131 posted on 07/11/2015 4:49:00 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Perfect! Exactly what we should do:

“enjoy Trump but please still vote C

Perfect!! to quote:

“enjoy Trump but please still vote Cruz,”

Excellent advice.


132 posted on 07/11/2015 4:49:50 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem with Jonah. and most of the conservative media in general, is that they live in an echo chamber with little or no influence on the public at large. The 2012 election really solidified that notion for me. I’m smart enough to figure out who to support and vote for without his help. And no, I’m not buying your next book.


133 posted on 07/11/2015 4:52:32 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (Morning shows are for morons)
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To: nathanbedford

NUT meet SHELL:

Conservatives and disillusioned Americans are not flocking to Donald Trump because he will cure what is wrong with the Democrats’ governance, they are desperate to find someone as an antidote to elitist, statist one-party rule waxing more intrusive than tyrannical every day. The Republican Party in Washington was given Congress to stop Obama care and, as one FReeper has already observed, gave us Obama trade instead.

That’s the whole thing right there.


134 posted on 07/11/2015 4:52:41 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: nathanbedford
So good, I'm going to repeat it!

Conservatives and disillusioned Americans are not flocking to Donald Trump because he will cure what is wrong with the Democrats' governance, they are desperate to find someone as an antidote to elitist, statist one-party rule waxing more intrusive than tyrannical every day. The Republican Party in Washington was given Congress to stop Obama care and, as one FReeper has already observed, gave us Obama trade instead.

The wreckage of the Republican Party is not the work of Donald Trump, it is the work of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, George Bush and Karl Rove and many others who are considerably wealthier today than when they started.

Jonah Goldberg, where were you when we were being sold out?

Seriously, if there's anyway to get these three paragraphs to him? It sums up exactly what has happened to get us to this circus we see today.

135 posted on 07/11/2015 4:54:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: sauropod

I can still remember his kindness towards the Central Park jogger. He really turned on the media at that time, excoriating the criminality of the underclass.

I’m not voting for him but am so enjoying his run.


136 posted on 07/11/2015 4:56:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: dragnet2
This video should be viral.

Mr. Trump brings together people whose children were killed by illegal aliens and lets them tell their stories.

They slam the press for not reporting the news of how illegal aliens who committed crimes were let go or got off with light sentences, only to be back on the street to kill more innocent people.

Listen to the people tell their stories. The press certainly isn't.

Here it is again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsokVoqSOA8

137 posted on 07/11/2015 5:00:02 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: EBH

...”Trump is going to pull away votes, conservatives will be disappointed...AGAIN. How many will stay home and not vote this time because of this game from Trump?”...

I think it is a mute point and I am thankful that someone had the guts to state a truth that the richest in the country will not go near. We are frequently told how Washington D.C. has no unemployment and how two counties there are the richest in the nation. How are these “servants” so rich, pray tell? Well, they are living off the sweat and blood of the commonplace folks in the heart of America (rest of the country) who now have no voice because the major news media is a part of that rich of richest governments in the world. Donald Trump did not get his wealth from robbing the federal coffers and that is why he can speak the truth. I think most people are devastated by what they know is happening even if they do not understand it. I think it is possible that the 2016 elections will not be fair but will be fixed. We might have had our last fair election in 2014 which was immediately nullified by the leaders in the Senate and the House. That landslide didn’t matter in the end and such a thing is very discouraging to voters regardless of who the candidate is. I think Hillary Clinton knows all of this and that is why she does not really have to run to win.


138 posted on 07/11/2015 5:01:52 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: nonliberal

Jeb will not get my vote under any circumstance...Jeb is the spawn of the looters and crony capitalists.


139 posted on 07/11/2015 5:02:24 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sorry, found this article to be a tad condescending. What’s with the book mention?

So it’s ok for his boss and friend to take the same positions as Trump but not ok for Trump to do it?

I feel like I just chewed a whole lotta gum and the flavor’s gone. Reads like someone who got their feelings hurt by Trump. It’s a big “so” for me.


140 posted on 07/11/2015 5:09:01 AM PDT by austinaero
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