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To: Crim

Here is a link to an article which includes 2 complete requests to the court which include references to the counselor’s and psychologist’s finding that the mother is engaged in alienating the children from their father and various other “difficulties” the mother has caused, and one finding or result.

http://everything-pr.com/omer-tsimhoni-maya-eibschitz-legal-case/258402/

If a court orders someone to do something, and they refuse to do it, then they are in violation of a court order and can be jailed or fined. This is a really normal part of the US legal system.

Now, you have apparently heard the mother’s side from people who know the mother. I have heard tales of divorces from both sides, and one would never dream that the two were divorcing each other, the stories were so different.

In reading the court transcript of the proceeding which resulted in the children’s being taken to CV, the judge also mentions having heard the mother previously speaking to the children in an alienating way about their father.

WRT my general statements, they were general statements. However, in the interview with the father and in the link above, it would seem that this particular mother had also been uncooperative wrt the father’s rights.

I do have children, about the same ages as yours, oddly enough, and yes, they probably would be upset with the parent who broke up the family. In this case, it was the mother’s decision to break up the family...

Of course, neither my children nor yours have any more to do with this situation than do the generalized children I brought up (which I did more as a comment on your attitude than on the case we are discussing).

You apparently did not engage in a pattern of vilifying your wife to your children, as everyone actually involved in the case with full access to court and psychological records seems to agree this mother was doing. The children’s lawyers, the GAL, etc, did not protest the removal of the children from under the mother’s influence.

The fact that people you know who know the mother and children say they are seemed normal.... how many times have people who have known people involved in a serious problem say, “They always seemed nice and normal!”


79 posted on 07/09/2015 4:33:41 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: Chicory

Wow that is a nice long list of accusations from a high priced lawfirm there but worth the read.

So the current court motions where started by the father because his children wouldnt speak to him during visitations....and was also a filing for request for expanded visitation.

Confirmed.

Thanks.

I guess I just dont get it....if I had remarried , had a two year old, and my kids and ex wife didnt want to see or speak to me I would take the hint.

I wouldnt try and legally power trip my way back into their lives....or be willing to see them in state custody until they turn 18.

SMH

This just all seems so bizzare....if the mother was in contempt why not jail her instead?

Why all this assumtion that the kids are programed little robots?

Where they not offered a choice?

Go to lunch with your dad, talk to your dad, and apologise or go to Childrens village?

Regardless of what started it, the kids are willing to go to children village rather than speak to their father...even after weeks of being there...

Now I cant think of any programing, amount of smack talk against their mom,, lies, flat out bribes or even threats could ever get my preteen daughter to willingly give up her friends, smart phone , x-box, cat ,and internet social circle and go sit in state custody with the possibilty of being there till shes 18 just to make daddy happy becuase I hate mommy.

She would throw me under the bus...LOL.

I keep wondering if there isnt something else going on we dont know yet or something happend we dont have the full back story on.

The son claims he saw his dad hit his mom....have you considered that he might be telling the truth?

have the kids witnessed fights and behavior from their father that make them fearful or hateful of him?

I’m sorry but psycho mom doesnt explain everything here.

If the actions of the children were based soley on their mother’s influence, why have they not complied with the court now that their mother has no contact with them for weeks?

What happens if they never change their minds?


80 posted on 07/09/2015 5:45:46 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Chicory

BTW after re-reading the complaint you linked to, the father was clearly filing a motion asking the mother to be jailed for contempt, be stripped of physical custody, and be awarded attorney fees.

http://everything-pr.com/omer-tsimhoni-maya-eibschitz-legal-case/258402/

Yes I see a long line of accusations and requests for judgement etc...but much of that stuff is kinda weak...hear say, assumtion, inferance, innuendo, and opinion.

So the father unloaded his lawyer with both barrels at the mother in court and hit the kids as collateral damage.

Yeah that’s gonna get the kids to love ya dad.


81 posted on 07/09/2015 6:28:11 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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