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To: Stosh
>>in that sense, Nazi’s and commies are virtually indistinguishable.

OK, I'll just post the Hayek quote from my profile page, it's germane to the thread, since the idea behind your comment keeps coming up. Realize this was an educated contemporaneous observer writing just after the events.

Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under "communism" and "fascism." As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, "the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

-- F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom

Realize that Hayek's "liberal of the old type" is what we today would term a conservative, that the collectivist Left in this country has appropriated the term "liberal" to hide from socialist and communist.

30 posted on 07/08/2015 6:22:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Realize that Hayek's "liberal of the old type" is what we today would term a conservative, that the collectivist Left in this country has appropriated the term "liberal" to hide from socialist and communist."

I was on the fringes of the New Left in my college days (1968-1972) and I can confirm that the left hated old-school liberals like Hubert Humphrey every bit as much as they hated Nixon.
33 posted on 07/08/2015 6:50:17 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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