Posted on 07/07/2015 10:23:36 AM PDT by Perseverando
I remembered you are interested in the stuff we were talking about... GBU2!
You know that many homosexuals? Should we be worried about you?
Isn’t it the only sexual sin called an abomination?
I thought homosexuality was the only sexual sin described as an abomination.
Do you mean homosexuals are possessed?
That doesn’t appear to be correct.
In Leviticus 18, most of the chapter consists of a listing of a whole host of sexual sins, mostly involving relations with relative, but also including adultery and homosexuality. Then it says:
24 Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for in these practices the nations I am casting out before you have defiled themselves. 25 And the land has become defiled; therefore I have punished its iniquity, and the land has vomited out her inhabitants. 26 But you shall therefore keep My statutes and My decrees, and you shall not commit any of these abominations, either the native citizen or any foreigner who sojourns among you 27 (for the people of the land, who were before you, committed all of these abominations, and the land became defiled), 28 lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you.
29 For whoever shall commit any of these abominations, those persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people. 30 Therefore you shall keep My ordinances, that you do not commit any one of these abominable customs which were committed before you, so that you do not defile yourselves by them: I am the Lord your God.
There is also a whole host of things listed in the Old Testament as abomination that Christians pay not the slightest attention to: violating the Sabbath, eating pork or shellfish or any other prohibited foods, wearing cross-sex clothing (arguably referring to women wearing trousers), remarrying husband 1 after divorcing husband 2, etc. Proverbs probably uses the word more than any other book, and it applies to a whole bunch of things: lying, cheating, stealing, etc.
More critically, the pronouncements in Leviticus are part of the Law, which Christians are not under. Which is why in my original post I referred to the treatment of this sin in the New Testament. I find it at best inconsistent for Christians to ignore pretty much all of the Law, then claim parts they like as justification for specific POVs.
I am in perfect agreement that homosexual acts are sinful. They fall into the group known as porneia, which includes all sexual activity outside marriage. But I find little in the NT that indicates these acts are greatly more sinful than other types of sexual sins.
My POV on this is by present standards odd. I don’t use the similar treatment of heterosexual sex outside marriage and homosexual acts to say homosex isn’t all that bad, I use it to show why premarital and extramarital sex are really bad.
I have noticed that many if not most churches, even quite conservative ones, don’t spend much time preaching against what we today call “dating.” By which I mean sleeping around before marriage. Nor does there appear to be much effort to ensure that members of the church who get divorced have scriptural grounds for that divorce.
But homosexual behavior gets them into a mighty uproar.
I will agree, BTW, that homosexual acts are worse than heterosexual ones, being violations of the natural order as well as sexual sins. But seems to me that many conservative Christians, on a sin scale of 1 to 10, class homosexuality as a 10, premarital sex as perhaps a 3, and adultery as a 6.
While I think a more appropriate classification might be a 7 for heterosexual sins and an 8 for homosexual ones.
Your mileage probably will vary.
So we should not have elected Reagan?
President Reagan had one divorce, which was not his choice. He was a family man who eventually remarried a woman close in age, and stayed married to her until the day he passed away.
President Reagan did not have a string of ever-younger wives or launch new relationships while still married. He was devoted in both cases, and I do not recall any scandal at all surrounding his life in that regard.
If I remember correctly, Nancy Reagan’s birthday is sometime this week, by the way.
Divorce is not ideal, but if it has to happen, the way the Reagan family handled it was done with children and family paired with the seriousness of the situation in mind.
Serial marriage with ever younger spouses are issues.
Who are we talking about?
Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich come to mind.
People who marry and remarry over and over. Divorce after divorce, always younger women.
When you make a mockery of the institution of marriage, your ability to speak on that issue is limited or nonexistent.
Choose those who represent you carefully if issues like marriage actually matter (they do).
Great response. Thank you for that excellent description of several of these issues. Especially, the Global Warming matters and that cancer, the UN.
As far as the Apocalypse goes, I believe it is RC Sproul who noted that he was persuaded the events described in the Revelation of Jesus Christ (also misnamed the Revelation of John) occurred during the years following the departure of Jesus and the destruction of Jerusalem. The anti-Christ was Nero and the slaughter of the Jews and Christians was the Great Tribulation. If this is so, there are no “end times” coming...just the end. Thoughts?
Yes indeed.
Good post. Thanks for the response.
Do you have a Biblical source for that?
Genesis chapter 6
The Nephelium came, the fallen ones came to earth to pervert natural sexual relations with men and women, and also including beasts.
The men in the cities of Soddom and Gorroriah were demonjcay possessed by the un-nateral sexual spirits where they wanted to have sexual relations with the two Holy angels who came to rescue Abraham’s nefew Lot out of that situation.
Whoa! Very interesting. I guess that’s why we’re heading for the end times. How does someone get possessed?
They leave themselves open to demonic activity.
I do believe that a born again Christian filled with the Holy Spirit can not nor ever be or can be demon possessed.
Now a Christian can be harrased by messengers of Satan.
I would go farther to say that a Christian can not be hexed or cursed.
Homosexualism and Feminism has a strong tie in baal worship in the Old Testament in Israel.
During baal worship there would be perverted sexual practices going on right on the alter.
Many of the baal prophets were enfeminant.
In the New Testament the Pharisees falsely accused of being possessed by baalezebub, that is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Feminism and homosexuality is baalism.
During King Ahab’s time the Nation of Israel fall away from Yahweh and started to worship baal even to the point of sacrificing their children to baal.
It was Queen Jezebel who was a major force with her brand of feminism of her day that caused Israel to fall in moral decay and rot to baalism.
God rose up a great prophet of Elijah to challenge the Nation and King Ahab.
Elisha continued Elijah’s ministry after God took Elijah up into heaven.
Homosexually is baal worship, baalism, worshiping the devil and demonic activity.
Many of the baal worshipers in Israel’s Old Testament days during the rein of King Ahab, and other kings until the captivity of Babylon continued in baal worship.
Many of the baal prophets, and I would go on to say priests were gay, enfeminate men.
Baal worship had it’s own brand of feminism and homosexual practices to summons the devil, Satan.
Feminism and homosexuality is satanic worship to it’s core, but as the bible says there is nothing new under the sun.
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