Posted on 07/05/2015 12:53:32 PM PDT by Lurch Addams
Greek referendum results live: No vote to eurozone bail-out deal leads by 60 per cent.
After 20pc of the vote is counted, Greeks look to have voted 'No' with a 60pc majority against Europe's bail-out conditions
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Correct, you worded it differently: "They were complicit". What that implies is clear to anyone capable of reason.
choosing to be involved in an illegal or questionable act
Do you consider yourself complicit in Obamacare?
Plundering however many property owners Greece still has because of lying politicians and greedy voters isn't going to fix their problems, it's going to exacerbate them.
Loans entail risk (regardless of what central bank interest rate machinations attempt to portray), and the real complicity belongs to the lenders who helped Greece dig the hole they're in.
Their problem is they already spent that money, so they're actually walking away penniless with future borrowing prospects cut off (at least from the West, how Russia, China, etc. approach this remains to be seen). Their real trick is going to figuring out how to live within their means going forward. If they thought they were poor last week...
Can the German public, who from what I've read are quite 'bail-out weary', be convinced that the monetary union should be turned into a permanent wealth transfer union in order to preserve the Europhiles dreams of a federal Europe?
The Fraud Papermaker-Note Cockroaches, are having a hard time under the lights on this one. As the Greeks have called them on their QE bluff, as the EU Commissioner is unable to enact a EU version of an (Un)affordable (Un)care Act, (i.e. Body Mortgages), on everyone in the EU.
Without universal Body Mortgages (extortion-care), massive QE and consequential dilution, high prices (esp food/essentials), economic slump., and then shortages.
and now the Wednesday scramble Summit called the Bluff.
The Bluff has been called on the fraud paper bond makers (selling fraud bonds with NO REAL COLLATERAL i.e. NON performing false collateral. Collateral lie.
(Scramble Bluff Fraud Collateral Summit- Tuesday)
“Debt syndication-bundling” More fraud MBS type papermaking, “collateral” (fraud collateral) papermaking.
They certainly are complicit. They don’t pay taxes, they scam all they can. There was the article about all the people who claim to be blind to get benefits. They most certainly have contributed to the mess.
I Saw an add for Greek yogurt, maybe they export that. and my favorite Feta cheese.
Maybe we’ll soon see 50 Trillion drachma banknotes like they have in Zimbabwe.
Cheap vacations for all!!!
the parasites voted to kill the host. Again.
Yeah, you’re right. I would never support taking anyone’s property for any reason.
I don’t know what I was thinking. Probably about pensions being cut - THAT is acceptable and necessary. If people as a whole vote to not pay back a debt, then the people as a whole need to suffer the consequences. That is just wrong. But not some individuals that have money or property over those that don’t.
But the way they are talking about stealing people’s money in the banks if they have over 8000 euros - makes me want to put all my money under my mattress. Our government will be thinking about the same thing next.
“Their real trick is going to figuring out how to live within their means going forward. If they thought they were poor last week...”
Their vote makes no sense to me - how do they think they will live? Where do they think the money will come from?
I find this most scary because our youth will think along the same lines, when the time comes. Heck, they already have! They wanted Obamacare, then when they find out their premiums will be supporting the older folks, they bail out on getting insurance.
Socialism is only fun when you are the receiver.
Thanks for putting us back on the right path. What I ‘think’ is going on is total disgust for this vote and for the Greeks, as a whole. So we lump them in the same group and figure they deserve what they get. But there were 40% that voted for austerity measures and to pay the debt back.
I do not, as you do, conflate the 'they' who claim to be blind with all Greeks.
Do you consider yourself 'complicit' in Obamacare? Should your property be plundered to ensure Obamacare's subsidies do not add to the federal debt?
Do you see no complicity on the part of the Troika who encouraged a furtherance of Greek debt issuance years after their own analysis indicated it could not be redeemed? I don't think that kind of irresponsibility should entitle the lenders to Greek citizen's property. Perhaps in the future they will be more prudent, and thereby force more prudence on profligate governments like the Greek's.
i wonder if the debt is so severe that a strict graduated income tax and corporate taxes would not help.
otherwise, perhaps rich greeks can chip in charity until the worst of the internal crisis is over (should they not? if ordinary greeks had little input to the decision to join the EU in the first place).
And where are the economists who predicted all would be rosy? they should be tarred and feathered and run out of town.
No one is seriously considering invading greece, right?
However, what happens if the Greeks sell rights to the Chinese and Russians, and the West cannot abide by it? A world war? over Greece?
you keep returning to the same point of seizure which i have not advocated. I merely stated the people there are complicit in the problem as well. From the false claims of disabilities, to the avoidance of taxes and the absurdly early retirement schemes they have going, the too share blame.
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