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Here we go again. Get your V2V-free vehicle now.
1 posted on 07/04/2015 2:18:46 PM PDT by upchuck
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Vehicles equipped with tire pressure monitors broadcast data that can be used to identify a vehicle as it passes a receiver and decoder placed near the roadway. This is because each tire pressure transmitter is built with a unique 32 bit ID number like the “MAC address” on ethernet adapters.

In the US, the system broadcasts on 315 MHz.

Their installation became standard in the 2008 model year.


29 posted on 07/04/2015 2:52:54 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Fed to Mandate that Cars “Broadcast Speed and Location Data” Promise Not to Use it Against You

Tell the Sheeple that they will get automatic tickets through email, twitter and facebook, and their fines will be automatically deducted from their computer connected bank accounts.

They don't have to bother showing up for trial, their guilt is taken for granted. Their cars will testify against them. :)

30 posted on 07/04/2015 2:54:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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Two questions:

When (if) is this likely to happen?

Will this working be part of your car’s required functionality? In other words, will you be fined if it’s temporarily disabled, or if it doesn’t work at inspection?


34 posted on 07/04/2015 2:57:28 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Aren’t we already sending this information via our GPS and smart phones?


36 posted on 07/04/2015 2:57:46 PM PDT by Raycpa
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“V2V communication security system would contain multiple technical, physical, and organizational controls to minimize privacy risks—including the risk of vehicle tracking by individuals and government or commercial entities,”

If they are truly serious about privacy, the system would generate a random ID each time the car is started from a stopped position. I won’t hold my breath. Government always finds it easy to give government a pass to secure the power it craves over us.


37 posted on 07/04/2015 2:58:13 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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“V2V communication security system would contain multiple technical, physical, and organizational controls to minimize privacy risks—including the risk of vehicle tracking by individuals and government or commercial entities,”

If they are truly serious about privacy, the system would generate a random ID each time the car is started from a stopped position. I won’t hold my breath. Government always finds it easy to give government a pass to secure the power it craves over us.


38 posted on 07/04/2015 2:58:14 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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No.


41 posted on 07/04/2015 3:04:08 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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Yep! CDC probably getting ready to mandate that all penises must talk to each other and be speed and location traceable.


43 posted on 07/04/2015 3:06:13 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Ok, so for the first time I’m glad Sen Paul is in the race.

This sounds like the kind of issue where him having a larger platform could be beneficial.


44 posted on 07/04/2015 3:10:57 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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"...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism...

Randy Barnett translates: "But to justify a revolution, it was not thought to be enough that officials of the government of England, the Parliament, or even the King himself had violated the rights of the people. No government is perfect; all governments violate rights. This was well known."

"So the Americans had to allege more than mere violations of rights. They had to allege nothing short of a criminal conspiracy to violate their rights systematically. Hence the Declaration’s famous reference to “a long train of abuses and usurpations” and the list that followed."

I'm thinking we got a us a criminal conspiracy by the gruberment at all levels to violate our Rights systematically.

47 posted on 07/04/2015 3:21:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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If this is Vehicle-to-Vehicle only, then this isn’t so bad. Essentially the cars within 300 feet of you all talking with each other and keeping track of speed and direction.

Big step up in safety.

But this does NOT need to transmit to a government server anywhere.


51 posted on 07/04/2015 3:28:59 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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The owner will pay in the added cost of the car and maintenance. Car dealers will be forbidden to disable them. Within 2 years police cars and roadside receivers will be able to read and store the data.

Government agencies will store the information at a huge cost, giving them an excuse to raise taxes.

Remember when they gave us reflective plates? They said they would save lives. Lo and behold, a few years later, all police cars scan all plates and store the information.

Trust your government?


53 posted on 07/04/2015 3:33:14 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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There are two totally separate issues being talked about here. The least number of comments are regarding the Technology. The technology is a good thing.

The problem is who has the power to used the data generated by this Technology and has two aspects. First, that we no longer TRUST the Government which would have access to the data generated by the Technology. Secondly, that our Government no longer has any desire or will to control or limit evil wrong-doers (as opposed to “non-compliant” individuals who insist on, say, driving at 75mph on a deserted, dry Interstate which our benevolent Government has designated as a 55mph Limit section because it is a “mountain county”.

Instead, Government is primarily concerned with CONTROL of ordinary people going about their everyday lives.

“Where is your Permit?”
“Have you completed the Environmental Impact Evaluation?”
“Have you offended a privileged minority?”
“How much did you make last year? Send it in!”

The Technology could be great in reducing traffic accidents, in allowing for self driving cars and for “flight following” for loved ones on a trip. The fly in the ointment is that Government cannot be trusted. And the Technology will facilitate criminals who will continue to go unpunished.


57 posted on 07/04/2015 3:40:33 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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They're practicing with ADSB.

Every aircraft will "talk" to every other aircraft, giving position data, altitude, etc. - plus the aircraft owner's name and personal information.

Every aircraft that intends to use air traffic control services (towers, flight following, etc.) must have one on board by 2020.

"Oh, look. John Smith is out on a flight..."

Screw that. I'll fly into uncontrolled fields only.

60 posted on 07/04/2015 3:48:57 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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It should be possible to disable it, a fuse here, a wire cut there, an antenna removed or shielded somewhere. I just hate paying for something that I will immediately remove.


61 posted on 07/04/2015 3:51:36 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Uh, no!


62 posted on 07/04/2015 3:52:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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M4L cars


67 posted on 07/04/2015 4:04:02 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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Fed to Mandate that Cars “Broadcast Speed and Location Data” Promise Not to Use it Against You

It's a LIE!

68 posted on 07/04/2015 4:05:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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I am certain if this passes there will be many entrepreneurs marketing devices to block these devices. Isn’t the holy grail of liberals the right to privacy for abortions, so why should the government be able to violate my right to privacy to go where I please without government snooping?


69 posted on 07/04/2015 4:12:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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And of course, how much more will thast government snoop box cost the consumer?????


70 posted on 07/04/2015 4:17:35 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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