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I think this will continue in the courts...I thought I read there is some evidence of collusion by state workers with the lesbians against said bakery
Any bets that 'law' was the homosexuals' idea in the first place?
They learned how to game the system from their brothers-in-arms, the liberals.
This kangaroo court will only work if the public allows it. But if the public allows it, the best response for its victims is just to leave, taking their business and money with them, and telling to court, its fines and gag orders to go get knotted.
For everyone else who wants to evade such a court, they must use subterfuge to do so. For example, churches can legally discriminate against homosexuals, so the business no longer makes wedding cakes “for sale to the public”, but only through these churches, by contract.
This means no more wedding cakes for secular or liberal church weddings as well. And when they ask why, tell them it is because this kangaroo court forbids it.
“Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian says that you cannot have a wedding cake for your wedding, at least from us. Only if you are married at one of these churches can we, by contract, make you a wedding cake. Sorry about this, but think about it the next time you vote.”
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I still like Fr. Z’s suggestion.
Bake the cake
Charge $1000
Tell the homosexual couple that all profits from their purchase will go to supporting traditional marriage between one man and one woman.
Watch them walk out the door.
I recently discovered Rev John Rankin. He is a brilliant thinker and writer.
*Judicial Putsch*
In the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing human abortion, dissenting justice Byron White called it an exercise in “raw judicial power.”
In today’s U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage, dissenting justice Antonin Scalia called it a “judicial putsch” (overthrow).
In both cases, these supposed “rights” were invented apart from Constitutional law. This means we are no longer a nation of laws, but of a nation where the human wills of certain elitists are imposed on the rest of us.
Does it matter? From antiquity we have the biblical understanding of human freedom under the rule of law, and governed by King Yahweh. In Mesopotamian and Egyptian culture, we have kings who call themselves gods, and impose slavery on the non-elites of society. The “state” is god.
In the biblical profile of Sodom and Gomorrah, social and sexual anarchy lead to the state becoming god, no dissent is permitted, and the poor and needy get trampled.
In the Roman Empire, Caesar was eventually lifted to the status of a god, where Tiberius was the “son of the divine Augustus.” The self-proclaimed son of god. So when the true Son of God appears, the greatest contest of the ages comes to pass. Thus, for early Christians to call Jesus Lord was to oppose Caesar as lord, and thus the persecutions began.
We are now a nation that has forsaken its heritage of unalienable rights given by the Creator, and replaced it with the state as god.
The trajectory now in the United States is to remove the religious liberty of all people who dissent from the state as god, including those of us who say no to human abortion, say no to same-sex marriage, and say no to state enforced healthcare that cheapens real care and costs us much more.
And just like Nazi Germany where the church was squeezed into compliance — save a few brave souls who resisted like Dietrich Bonhoeffer — the next assault will especially be against pastors, churches and Christians who do not yield to the state as god. Support homosexuality, ordain homosexual clergy and perform same-sex marriages or lose your tax exemption ...
I should be past the point of being shocked after six years of Obama, but I’m not. The idea of a judge violating two separate parts of the First Amendment simultaneously. to coerce Americans into working in violation of their religious beliefs, against their will, and not talking about their rights being trampled, is both shocking and disgusting. I hope this judge experiences justice on the receiving end (preferably in a Nuremberg-style trial in a real court once freedom is restored), since he is too evil to dispense it from the bench.
I wonder how they arrived at such a high number. A lot of cakes would have to be baked to come up with that much money. Plus, what sort of emotions were experienced by the gay couple to justify this payment? We seems screwed lately.
So, there is no first amendment at all when it comes to sodomites.
Don’t they have a lawyer? This whole thing appears unconstitutional particularly the gag order.
Even granted that there should be a law against discrimination based on sexual orientation and that it should even affect baking cakes for gay weddings, $135K seems like a pretty excessive punishment for one offense by a small business. Isn’t there some sort of constitutional argument against this kind of thing? But perhaps it would cost even more to fight it.
Free Speech and Religious Freedom gone in one swoop-Way to go comrade judge Avakian.