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To: Pelham

Nice try, but I don’t accept your diversion regarding the Revolutionary War.

Please explain to me how ANYTHING that was done during the Revolutionary War affects the reason why the South seceded and started the Civil War.

The question in front of us is, why did the South start the War that killed more Americans than any other war, and the answer is slavery.

You know, the North didn’t fight the war to end slavery, it fought it to maintain the Union. It was the South that fought it for slavery. My only point is, don’t try to dress up the reasons for the South seceding with State’s Rights, or self-determination, or any other rubbish. Just show some testicular fortitude, and man up and admit the South (not the North) fought due to slavery.


95 posted on 07/02/2015 8:53:41 AM PDT by Team Cuda
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To: Team Cuda

During the Revolution an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 slaves tried to escape, encouraged by British offers of emancipation.

On November 14, 1775 the last Royal Governor of Virginia, Lord Dunmore, issued “Dunmore’s Proclamation”. This document declared martial law, condemned all rebels as traitors, and also declared free all “indented Servants and Negroes free that are able and willing to bear arms”. Dunmore organized them into his Ethiopian Regiment

The Philipsburg Proclamation of June 30, 1779 went beyond this. Issued by General Henry Clinton it proclaimed all slaves owned by Patriots to be free regardless of their willingness to fight. It offered freedom and land to any slaves who left their master.


112 posted on 07/02/2015 12:24:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: Team Cuda

” Just show some testicular fortitude, and man up and admit the South (not the North) fought due to slavery.”

You mean slavery as practiced by Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, and the majority of American Presidents prior to Lincoln? I thought so.

The seven deep south slave states seceded because they believed that the Republican party was a hostile, sectional party and would use the resources of the national government against them.

Lincoln called up his 75,000 man army to force these seven seceding states back into the union, in a manner reminiscent of events 90 years earlier. Unlike the first time, compulsory union would defeat independence.

The next wave of secession came in response to Lincoln’s decision to wage war against the original seceding states. But several slave states remained in the Union entirely unmolested by Lincoln.


114 posted on 07/02/2015 1:10:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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