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To: BroJoeK; celmak; Bubba Ho-Tep; DoodleDawg; jmacusa; Sherman Logan; x

Yes indeed, a tip of the hat to celmak for a worthy effort.

Just like so many others, I’ve been trying to make sense of these recent events. I do have an appreciation of the angst some of our southern FRiends are feeling, albeit for slightly different reasons. I do not personally identify with the CBF but I don’t begrudge anyone flying it should they choose to do so. Growing up I encountered the chip on the shoulder many southerners have toward outsiders but I’ve always shrugged it off and I never allowed myself to instill a knee-jerk “they’re all that way” attitude.

The silly side of all of this has been in the attempts by some of those to describe their affiliation to the symbol. More than a few have said that the CBF represents resistance to authority and that one made me laugh. I remember my younger sister obstinately drawing herself up and defiantly shouting, “You’re not the boss of me!” when any of us brothers attempted to restrain her from one of her more stupid antics. Come to think of it she still acts that way ;’)

I do have to admit that there’s some rebel in me too. I choose the Gadsden flag to show my opposition to authority.

The south went to war against their own compatriots and neighbors to defend institutionalized slavery. Confederate soldiers fought to support that cause whether they recognized it as such or not. There is no cognitive dissonance for me to say that I can revere the memory of those soldiers even though I oppose their actions. And there is no legitimacy to the assertion that any criticism of the actions of people 150 years ago equals “hatred” of their descendants today. That’s just stupid.

Celmak is right - the CBF represents a political movement instigated and perpetuated by democrats. The dhimmicrat party has effectively washed their hands (so to speak) of association to the symbol. Those who identify with the CBF sooner or later need to realize that public sentiment isn’t exactly running in their favor.

The two cultures of northerners and southerners came together in mutual defense against common enemies at the founding of our nation. Instead of obsessing on our differences we should be uniting in defense of our common interests.


135 posted on 07/03/2015 8:33:28 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Ditto. :-)


137 posted on 07/03/2015 9:59:47 AM PDT by celmak (LONG LIVE THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE SOUTH !!!)
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To: rockrr
Well said rockrr. I don't hate Southerners. Two of my brothers went to a Catholic College in North Carolina, Belmont Abbey. I've been to NC a number of times, it's a beautiful place.(here's something I'll bet most Rebs don't know: North Carolina is the eighth largest state in the nation.) I've got a sister-in-law from NC. I hate Confederates,aka “Johnny Reb Wannabes’’. The ‘’rebel’’ in me see’s Old Glory as the flag of rebellion and the symbol of good over evil. From Gettysburg to Fallujah and everywhere in between when Americans from all points on the compass defeated Nazism, Communism and Islamic fascism. We've got room for only one flag in America, that's the one thats going to be flying off my front porch all weekend-- Old Glory and she's a grand old flag. Have a happy Fourth of July one and all.
138 posted on 07/03/2015 2:18:39 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: rockrr
Celmak is right - the CBF represents a political movement instigated and perpetuated by democrats. The dhimmicrat party has effectively washed their hands (so to speak) of association to the symbol. Those who identify with the CBF sooner or later need to realize that public sentiment isn’t exactly running in their favor.

It is highly debatable with the MSM just what 'public sentiment' is exactly. But it is interesting to note that the 'public sentiment' you are touting and those that you side with are progressive and Marxist. Not to mention largely anti white and anti-Western culture.

149 posted on 07/03/2015 4:03:59 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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