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To: DiogenesLamp

An abstract is a short form. A copy is a long form. The certification stamp covers both documents. It says NOTHING whatsoever about not standing by the information contained on the document. Not one word.
Every birth certificate has the same wording.
The proof is in the pudding, everyone in an ifficial capacity who received a copy of the long form containing that certification wording ACCEPTED IT.
That’s 11 judges/justices and two Secretaries of State.


238 posted on 07/02/2015 7:30:54 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
It says NOTHING whatsoever about not standing by the information contained on the document. Not one word.

It stands by the fact that some sort of record exists in their files. It is not clear on whether this was an original record, or a replacement record.

That record in their files can be made to say anything, and need not reflect the actual truth.

Every birth certificate has the same wording.

Well that's absolutely not true. Take this one for example.

It has a clear and wiggle free certification:

This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record on file in the research and statistics office Hawaii State Department of Health.

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The proof is in the pudding, everyone in an ifficial capacity who received a copy of the long form containing that certification wording ACCEPTED IT. That’s 11 judges/justices and two Secretaries of State.

And now you are back to your fallacy of authority argumentum ad nauseum. I just demonstrated to you how these people could be wrong and not cognitive of the fact. Are you so stupid that you can't comprehend the point either?

The certification on Obama's document is not solid. The Certification on the birth certificate posted above is solid. Every effort to get a state official to certify it as an "ORIGINAL RECORD" is met with insistence on resorting to the "record on file" dodge.

They simply WILL NOT say those magic words "Original Record."

239 posted on 07/03/2015 9:54:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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