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To: Nero Germanicus
There is no state in the union that has a Secretary of State’s office with an investigative unit.

Why do you persist in this subterfuge? It does not require an "investigative unit" for the SecState to demand to see a birth certificate.

They have no budget and no statutory authority to perform that function.

Appeal to "Budget" is more subterfuge. No budget is required to look at a document. The cost of that can come out of the normal salary paid for them to sit behind a desk.

Appeal to "statutory authority" is utter nonsense because they can exercise such "statutory authority" when the whim takes them, as it did with Roger Calero.

Why do you present these dishonest arguments? Even more to the point, why do you insult our intelligence?

In most states, whoever a major political party nominates MUST BY LAW be placed on the ballot.

No law trumps constitutional law.

Barack Obama’s eligibility has been challenged 226 times.

I'm not interested in once more hearing your history lesson on the dysfunction of our legal system. Here you can't hide behind nonsense technicalities. Here you are subject to an actual debate on the facts.

You are not doing very well when your arguments butt up against the actual facts.

164 posted on 06/30/2015 6:31:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Secretaries of State are not included on the list of who can inspect a birth certificate under Hawaii law.
Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)
§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
(1) The registrant;
(2) The spouse of the registrant;
(3) A parent of the registrant;
(4) A descendant of the registrant;
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
(8) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.


169 posted on 06/30/2015 12:03:19 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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