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To: Nero Germanicus
Secretaries of State were SUED over this issue in Alabama (McInnish v Chapman), Ohio (Daniels v Husted), California (Dummett v Bowen), Georgia (Farrar v Kemp), Vermont (Paige v Condos) and Mississippi (Taitz v Hosemann, et. al.)

Yielding the ridiculous rulings that secretaries of state don't have to do their jobs unless they feel like it.

In Kansas and Arizona, Secretaries of State took the additional step of having Obama’s credentials verified by the state of Hawaii.

They did not. They merely solicited and received a non-determinative statement that reduces to "no you can't see it, but take our word for it, there is some sort of record in our files."

No proof, merely state officials being cagey while trying to pass off obfuscation as actual evidence.

Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States says “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, RECORDS, and judicial proceedings of every other state.

That isn't the issue. The state didn't submit a record for which any full faith and credit question could be brought to bear. They did not submit and attest to an original birth certificate.

Letters, statements, etc. are not substitutes for proof. It is tantamount to offering a plumbers license when you need to see a medical license. They are the WRONG documents. The correct ones exist, but the officials refuse to show them. You don't have a "full faith and credit" issue until the correct documents are shown, but not respected. That is not what has happened here.

As a matter of fact, as an argument, the appeal to "full faith and credit" in lieu of the CORRECT document is nothing but a liars tactic, only intending to confuse, not clarify the issue.

The stubborn fact remains, the only thing that comes close to being actual proof is an original birth certificated witnessed, signed, dated correctly, and attested to being THE ORIGINAL by the responsible state officials. (not an abstract thereof.)

161 posted on 06/29/2015 7:57:08 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

There is no state in the union that has a Secretary of State’s office with an investigative unit. They have no budget and no statutory authority to perform that function. A Secretary of State could turn that duty over to the state Attorney General’s office. Attorneys General can convene grand juries, issue subpoenas and get discovery.
In most states, whoever a major political party nominates MUST BY LAW be placed on the ballot. However there is no state that doesn’t also allow either average citizens or at least registered voters to challenge the credentials of a candidate both in courts of law and via state elections boards. The best and most successful eligibility challenges always come from opposing candidates who have standing to file suit.
Barack Obama’s eligibility has been challenged 226 times. 97 of those challenges went on to state and federal appellate courts and 27 of those appellate rulings went on to the Supreme Court of the United States.
That’s a grand total of 350 challenges to Obama’s eligibility.
Barack Obama’s birth certificate was introduced into evidence in the Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama eligibility challenges. It was never rejected by any judge. In Alabama and Mississippi the birth certificate was accompanied by a Certified Letter of Verification from Hawaii’/ Registrar of Vital Statistics.


163 posted on 06/29/2015 9:04:10 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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