Those that are egging you and others here in the forum to accept that violence is the only answer are:
1) Attempting to incite people to riot and commit violent acts against others,
2) Using comments made in the forum in relation to using violence as evidence that the forum is populated and moderated by a radical fringe that is dangerous, possibly justifying the imposition of Martial Law,
3) Attempting to persuade those who seek civil means to a resolution that they are foolishly deluded.
The only thing that needs to be said to these provocateurs is “there is of yet no grant of authority, and we will have our authority in due time”.
As for the constant push to name a time when “just one good government was peacefully obtained from a tyrant”, the appropriate response is to name just one war against a tyrant that did not at first embrace a civil means to resolve conflicts. The delegates to the assembly in Philadelphia that ended up signing the Declaration of Independence were first focused on presenting their concerns to King George by letters pleading for consideration of those concerns. Even after King George replied that they would all be tried and hung by the neck upon conviction, the delegates continued on to implement the Declaration of Independence. And they were not all relaxed in a hall waiting to sign the Declaration. They would randomly stream in a few here and there because they were on the run in fear of their lives.
Now why would these original patriots, these delegates who signed the Declaration of Independence, why would they risk their lives over a ‘document’ that King George would ignore and attempt to hold them accountable with?
What was so special about a ‘document’? Why not just gather arms and cannon and fight like hell as was being done in Massachusetts (the fighting in Massachusetts was viewed as an illegal insurrection by both the Crown AND loyalist Americans in the colonies).
The answer is the ‘document’ served as AUTHORIZATION to do the things that needed to be done. It was read from every town square, why? Why not just send copies to King George by courier and be done with it? Because Americans loyalists needed to understand that their countrymen were now AUTHORIZED to make war against the Crown.
So before the provocateurs attempt with their invective to paint this forum as one characterized by right-wing domestic terrorists, we will pursue our AUTHORIZATION with a ‘document’ via Article V.
If our Article V ‘document’ is torn up by the Feds, even as it is designed to be administered and enforced by the States, then we organize resistance.
First things first.
And I don’t see the Feds taking up arms against the citizenry especially if the States have an amendment document granting them AUTHORITY to rein in the abuses of the Federal Government. I would expect that even the National Guard soldiers would disobey orders to attack; it could be much like the Velvet Revolution of the Czech Republic.
Remember that Obama and his hard-core left will be looking for any PRETEXT for imposing Martial Law as his term heads down the final stretch.
Can we get an Article V amendment soon? Yes we can. Proposal and ratification could take but a few months if a consensus for urgency emerges. The rulings of this last week have without doubt upped the urgency to push faster.
Thank you Hostage.
You are the only person who has intelligently and wonderfully explained the best hope and purpose of an Article V addition of Amendments.
I have no hostility towards the effort contrary to assumptions made. I asked the legitimate question that if the current Constitution can be ignored and circumvented by the oligarchy and the Rulers, how can anyone assume new Amendments are going to restrain those who now daily reveal their tyranny? The knee jerk reaction to the question is nothing short of the same kind of thing we see with those pushing the Leftist agenda.
I simply caution those who see that process as our salvation and restoration as no different than those who declare a politician to be our salvation.
I think the idea is one that will prove to be another lesson in futility because we are dealing with men in power without regard to law or morality beyond the new morality they are creating as superior to what we were once governed by.
Your answer is one I can support the effort towards, but I would advise that this people understand who and what they are up against - and have contingencies prepared for what happens if and when the efforts are thwarted or ignored.
You gave the only proper answer most who are doubtful of the success of the effort need to hear, and I offered it earlier but it was missed.
You and I will disagree on whether or not this regime will use brutal force against the citizenry. They are already doing so - like wolves picking off sheep via their alphabets.
The Homosexual Marriage deal is yet one more tool in the arsenal to criminalize and punish the very people they are declaring ‘monsters’ and ‘terrorists’ in their propaganda papers of record.