Posted on 06/25/2015 5:13:53 PM PDT by markomalley
After the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) was subpoenaed and issued a preservation order for Lois Lerner’s missing emails, tapes that potentially contained her emails were wiped, which was the topic of conversation at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing at the Rayburn Building on Capitol Hill on Thursday.
“There was a preservation order in place, there’s a subpoena in place, they’ve never complied with it; we’ve had testimony from the IRS commissioner that we would get all this only to find out they’ve been degaussing these tapes and they destroyed evidence,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) at the hearing.
The main witnesses at the hearing were Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration J. Russell George and Deputy Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration Office of Investigations Tim Camus.
“That’s what they did and that’s why we continue to have this,” said Chaffetz. “We haven’t even gotten into the content of the emails. We’re just trying to get them so we can read them and figure out what’s going on.”
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) focused his remarks on the timeline of events happening with the IRS scandal.
“On May 10, 2013 Lois Lerner, unprecedented, goes to a bar association meeting here in town three days before you’re going to issue your report. They want to get ahead of it [of the investigation], get their spin on it, so right from the get go the IRS is not being transparent, not helping the American people get to the truth because she goes and lies and she says it’s line agents in Cincinnati - May 10, 2013,” said Jordan.
He continued: “Twelve days later, there’s a preservation notice sent to people in the IRS; wasn’t followed; we found out, so twelve days later on May 22, 2013, notice that says don’t destroy any evidence, right? We want all the emails, we want all the documents preserved.”
“August 2, 2013, there’s a subpoena for the same documents they’re supposed to preserve, there’s a subpoena to give them to Congress,” said Jordan. “February 2, 2014, the IRS learns, not just anybody at the IRS, the chief legal counsel learns that there’s a problem with Lois Lerner’s hard drive and emails are missing.”
“One month later, despite the preservation order, despite the subpoena, one month after the chief counsel knows we’re missing some emails, 422 tapes containing those emails are destroyed,” said Jordan. “And three weeks after that, March 26, 2014, the head of the IRS, Commissioner Koskinen sits right where you’re sitting, Mr. Camus and he tells this committee we’re going to get you every single email Lois Lerner has sent.”
“So, preservation order, subpoena, don’t destroy anything – they destroy it,” said Jordan. “Three weeks later the guy in charge tells us we’re going to get you everything and they’ve already been destroyed. So here’s the question, how in the world could that happen?”
“It’s an unbelievable set of circumstances that would allow that to happen and it’s going to be fully documented in our report and I’m not sure I can describe it to you in five minutes,” said Tim Camus, the Deputy Inspector General for Investigations at the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration.
“The reason you can’t describe it is because there’s no explanation for that other than they were trying to not help the American people get to the truth, they were trying to hide something,” said Jordan.
Lois Lerner, former Director of IRS Exempt Organizations, publicly acknowledged that the IRS was targeting conservative groups and apologized on May 10, 2013, explained the Oversight Committee.
Since then, the Committee has requested documents from the IRS to assist in its investigation of the targeting program. The IRS has failed to comply, wiping 422 tapes that may have contained Lerner’s emails.
The shriveled-up old hag never planned to obey the law. She knew the “justice” department would never prosecute her.
She will get a high-paying job as reward for her service.
The country is no better than the Soviet Union. It’s a joke.
Novel.
Term Limits.
Vince Flynn.
1997.
My saving grace is I make so little we really are not talking much. But like Ann said, it is the principal of the situation. And the only reason I make so little is because these crooks crashed the economy in 2008 and their trade laws are promoting too much foreign competition.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES, CONGRESS IS REFUSING TO DO THEIR JOB! They are just a COMPLICIT as every lying pos in the Administration. Because it all leads right back to the Leadership of BOTH PARTIES!
Congress has ALL the power in washington, the executive and judicial branch operate according to the whims of CONGRESS!
Congress can Remove the President
Congress can remove the head of every executive agency Congress can remove ALL of their employees
Congress can Abolish every agency they so choose
Congress can remove EVERY JUDGE IN AMERICA, including every supreme court justice.
Congress can abolish every federal court except the supreme Court
Congress can decide which cases the Judicial Branch can hear and decide
CONGRESS can Imprison ANYONE they want for any reason they so desire for as long as they wish.
Congress can declare WAR
No other governing body has even 10% of the power CONGRESS has!!
CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!
Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)
If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.
Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.
Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.
Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.
Some references
[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html
[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html
[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit
[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html
[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf
[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/
The communists won’t control the DOJ forever.
These scumbags really thing they are going to destroy evidence and get off scot free.
The right wing has one last shot at crucifying these degenerate marxist monsters.
The attack on the left must be swift, merciless, and so complete that they never have the capacity to recover from it.
It must include adding 6 new right wing justices to the supreme court (The Constitution doesn’t specify nine).
That is one branch that can be immediately neutralized.
Then you go after Congress and the media with wholesale political persecution.
Mass arrests of marxist democrats in the House and Senate and any Republican not ready to get with the program.
Target the leftist media through prosecutions and harassment.
Make all citizens re-register to vote and make sure the gibsmedats registrations get lost.
And finally union, homosexual, illegal alien, and race baiter leadership will have to start disappearing.
The right can take America back.
All it takes is the right guy with the power and the stones.
>>The communists won’t control the DOJ forever.<<
We are seeing, on a daily basis, that it doesn’t matter who has the power in Versailles on the Potomac. They are all the same.
>>These scumbags really thing they are going to destroy evidence and get off scot free.<<
They will, because they know nothing is going to happen. Congress will issue a report and in a month no one will remember anything ever happened.
The rest of your post is a dictatorship of the right that would be as terrible as a dictatorship of the left.
>>All it takes is the right guy with the power and the stones.<<
What makes you think that there is any candidate that would do 0.000001 of what you ask. And what makes you think that the half breed will follow the Constitution and step down. Words don’t have any meaning anymore.
Daily examples of our scofflaw federal government.
Conspiracy to destroy government evidence, actual destruction of federal evidence, obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, aren’t these criminal actions? But since its a federal beef, it will have to go to the Department of Injustice, and I wouldn’t want to place any bets that Lynch will do anything about it.
There is no penalty. No one goes to jail. No penalty = no foul. It is just neat politics.
I have highlighted the operable word. Probably the only truthful thing these bums have said in this whole mess, and that was probably a parapraxis.
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