> “Well, the founders did not intend that the sovereignty of the United States could be negotiated away on a simple majority vote. That is why they required that treaties (such as Nafta and TPA) would need a 2/3 agreement of the Senators (which at the time were the representatives of the States and elected by State Legislatures)”
How is that the fault of Ted Cruz that McConnell decided to use a revenue bill originating in the House? How was Ted Cruz supposed to stop that and say it had to be a treaty when it was only renewal or reinstatement of TPA? He read the TPA bill as evidenced by his citing and quoting it in townhalls, interviews and social media. There was nothing in the TPA that negotiates away sovereignty. You;’re making up crap and trying to tie it to Ted Cruz; won’t work.
> “Gatt was a treaty and ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. It was not fast tracked.”
You have a reading problem. I said “Post WWII trade expansion governed by GATT and enforced with the Marshall Plan.” What part if “trade expansion” do you not understand?
The trade deals governed by GATT were fast-tracked by US Presidents, all of them. They still were until Harry Reid failed to renew the last TPA because he was trying to get money for the unions he represented.
> “That is post modern argument. The founders intended that any agreement between nations that bound the United States beyond the election of the next president was a treaty and needed 2/3 of the Senate to become law.”
That is your opinion and it is a fringe opinion because nearly every reputable and respected Constitutional Scholar disagrees with such an opinion as of today.
It is true that Obama and his hard core leftists are mixing things up and making clever schemes and fraud. That is not Ted Cruz’ fault. Your concerns are misplaced and that can only be because you are driven by an agenda.
Really?
TPA originated in the Senate
TPP originated in the White House.
Trade agreements all are all negotiated and signed by the president before being submitted to congress, so how can they be considered as originating in the house.
Unless the trade bill is authored by a congressman, negotiated and submitted to the house and Senate before the president signs it, then it is a treaty.
TPP cannot even be amended in the house. It is only subject to an up or down vote. It is not a "bill". It is a treaty.
The constitution is not a living document.