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To: A Navy Vet

Which has nothing to do with Waco 5/17/15 and following. Unless you are laying groundwork for declaring certain American citizens to be “sub-humans” as has been asserted on these threads.


51 posted on 06/23/2015 9:45:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o; A Navy Vet; TexasGator
Which has nothing to do with Waco 5/17/15 and following. Unless you are laying groundwork for declaring certain American citizens to be “sub-humans” as has been asserted on these threads.

Sadly, he IS laying the groundwork for assuming guilt because of someone wearing an insignia which all people have a right to wear regardless of who, where, or when. Navy Vet assures us that wearers of the 1% patch are guaranteed bad dudes ... frankly, I think that may have been true at one time, MAYBE, but now it is just a big drama great for TV "reality" shows, a lot of soap opera, people love thinking they can tell something about someone because they're "in the know" about this "secret sign" stuff.

I like that Navy Vet shares details about what he makes clear are a TINY MINORITY of the bikers, and which squares completely with my own, more limited experience with Hells Angels and bad biker dudes, but ... I think the 1% patch nowadays is as much a gimmick as anything else, more likely to mean what the wearer intends for it to mean, than what "police gang experts" think it means and which tools like Gator swallow like spoon-fed baby food.

This is ALL and ONLY about the right of free association. 177 Americans were arrested and harshly punished (being captured and prevented from working, paying bills, going home, meeting financial and professional obligations, taking care of family, etc., for a minimum of two weeks to a month, and then having to come up with thousands of dollars in order to rejoin normal life again is harsh punishment) for exercising a perfectly legal and quintessentially American right to free association.

Let's call a spade a spade.

57 posted on 06/23/2015 10:07:44 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: don-o
"Which has nothing to do with Waco 5/17/15 and following. Unless you are laying groundwork for declaring certain American citizens to be “sub-humans” as has been asserted on these threads."

Yes, I'm asserting the 1% MC clubs are "sub-humans" as are the Crips, Bloods, MS-13, Mexican Mafia. Again, watch the History Channel series Gangland. You'll understand.

69 posted on 06/23/2015 10:39:25 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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