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To: SoConPubbie
Please prove your accusation?

Cruz spoke out against giving Obama the power to lift sanctions on Iran.

Rubio, Paul, Cruz vote to allow Obama to lift Iran sanctions

The Iran vote was another unconstitutional surrender of congressional power to the executive branch.

Just like TPA, it makes stopping Obama's Iran deal a 67 vote supermajority, while approval only requires 51 votes.

OK, stopping Obama's trade deals only needs 60 votes, but 51 to ratify.

That is two times that Cruz spoke out against an unconstitutional shift in power and then voted for it.

580 posted on 06/23/2015 3:05:40 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Scott Walker - a more conservative governor than Ronald Reagan)
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To: Erik Latranyi

> “That is two times that Cruz spoke out against an unconstitutional shift in power and then voted for it.”

Two times spoke against and voted for it? I know of only one, what’s the other?

Ted voted NO on cloture for the Iran deal and then voted for it because as a sponsor (meaning an affirmative vote for) he gains certain privileges for tracking and participating in the legislation he sponsored namely in this case the Iran negotiations.

Where the deception occurs is when a Senator votes YES on cloture and then votes NO on the bill because he/she will know they are covered and can tell their constituents they voted against the bill even though they enabled it to pass by voting for cloture.

Ted was never deceptive on voting NO on cloture and then YES on the bill once he knew it was a done deal. It makes no sense, there is no benefit to doing it that way. No one votes NO on cloture in an attempt to deceive. If there were not enough votes for cloture, the Iran bill would have died. Usually cloture is called BEFORE the Senate Majority Leader and his Whip know they have the votes. Before cloture no one knows for sure if it’s a done deal. After cloture everyone knows it’s a done deal. Cloture is about cutting off debate. If there aren’t enough votes, debate continues. Cloture can be called several times and if there aren’t 60 votes, the debate continues until there are enough votes or the bill dies.

Ted spoke out against lifting sanctions on Iran but once he saw cloture had passed which he voted No on, he saw it was a done deal. He knew McConnell had the votes. There’s no point in continuing to work against something that is passed. It’s best to work with what you have and try and change it later.

I imagine Ted Cruz chose to become a sponsor of the bill for innocuous reasons as travel budget for he and his staff to Israel or other intermediate points where the Iran negotiations were taking place. As a sponsor he gains certain privileges. I also imagine the Israeli lobby asked him to stay involved.

For whatever reason, the Iran bill was kept tightly secret and that is where a legitimate gripe can be made because it leaves the public in the dark. Surely there were parts of the bill that had National Security implications; maybe there were a lot of such parts. We don’t know. It may very well be that secrecy was absolutely necessary. For example, terms for dealing with covert agencies, monitoring agencies etc. We simply do not know.

As for all the secret trade deals, Ted Cruz has said the secrecy surrounding them is “STUPID” and that the secrecy should be lifted NOW.


590 posted on 06/23/2015 3:38:01 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Erik Latranyi
WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, released the following statement regarding votes on the Iran Nuclear Review Act:

“This bill was a missed opportunity. If Congress had acted to defend our constitutional authority – if Congress had adopted the Cruz-Toomey amendment – then we would be able to stop a bad Iran deal. Instead, the odds are now overwhelming that under these ground rules President Obama will negotiate, and Congress will acquiesce to, a terrible deal that allows Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and will endanger the lives of millions of Americans and our allies.

“I voted no on cloture because we should have insisted on amendments to put real teeth in this bill. Ultimately, I voted yes on final passage because it may delay, slightly, President Obama’s ability to lift the Iran sanctions and it ensures we will have a Congressional debate on the merits of the Iran deal. I will continue to lead the fight to prevent the Islamic Republic of Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and to protect the national security of America and our allies.”


At least Cruz is honest about this bill and isn’t acting as though it were some big victory, like McConnell and Corker:
700 posted on 06/24/2015 12:16:08 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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