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To: Triple
Did they vote to secede over gun control? Yes, to some degree, but at least as importantly, they seceded because the Federal government was acting outside its authority, and taking action to unfairly change the balance of power to pass new law.

It is certainly a reasonable argument, but it will have no impact on those who wish to believe a certain thing.

Much of the opinions on the civil war are entirely subject to who your ancestors were and what part of the country you are from. Their opinions take on more of the "Yah! Our Team!" motivation than any other. The actual facts and principles involved are irrelevant to their reasons for wanting to believe their side is right. They just want to believe their side is right, and to use the available facts and their own preference in principles to justify what they wish to believe anyway.

Valid arguments don't really work very well in an emotion driven discussion.

This is one reason the Libs always win. Their arguments are always emotion over reason, because they are mostly emotion driven.

My position is simple. The right to leave trumps all other considerations. The Freedom of Association requires an equal and opposite freedom. The Freedom to disassociate. To refuse to be part of something with which you disagree.

119 posted on 06/29/2015 2:27:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

excellent points - all


121 posted on 06/29/2015 4:09:06 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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