[epow]

Could it be that homosexual perversion was a major reason why those ancient nations and cultures that routinely and unashamedly practiced homosexual perversion aren't still around nowadays? I think so, God will only allow such a radical perversion of His plan for propagating the species to go just so far and no farther. Then He intervenes, usually by way of enemy nations, and the party is over.

America's party hasn't fallen to that level yet, but it's a lot farther down the road to self destruction than it was over 1/2 century ago when I was in still struggling through college and homosexuals were called "queers"". Which IMHO is still a good description of their disgusting practices even though it's not politically correct.

[cradle of freedom]

It is believed that ancient Greece had sex between men and boys as a common practice, on the home front women were just used for housekeeping and making babies. There didn't seem to be much closeness between the sexes.

Men in Afghanistan also have this practice of using boys for sex. I have wondered how human societies can become so abhorrent, my belief is that probably at some time in the past there was some really sick leader who pushed his perverted ways on the culture, probably a pedophile who preferred boys and had access to many young boys. The young boys probably grew up to prefer male sex partners over females and the pattern became set in the culture. What you said about enemy nations taking over the perverted nations is probably true as perversion over time will emasculate the culture, a more masculine culture will probably move in. It might take centuries for a culture to collapse but it could be a long time pattern.