We watched “American Sniper” last night and it occurs to me today now I understand you much better. You are so eager to tell me who my friends are, allow me to tell you who your friends are. While I have made it clear who I am and why I am here you are quite reluctant to tell us who you are or why you are here. Let me tell you who your friends are.
In my youth “The War” was in Vietnam Nam. There were community organizers and agitators. Disrupters who wanted to “Bring the War Home”. The Abbie Hoffmans, the Black Panthers. That crowd. They did not mean to end the war, they wanted the bloodshed and violence to happen on American streets. American soil.
Now I understand you much better. You just want to “Bring the War Home”. You think it is only fair that we should have the experience folks in Ramadi and Falujha had. If we (collectively, because that is how you and your friends see everything, collectively) can do that to Iraqis then we should have that done to us. So that would put you in the category of friends of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn and company. These are the dogs YOU lie down with. Enjoy your fleas.
Sorry, but you are the one picking the friends. No one dragged you to this thread to defend motorcycle gangs.
Who do you contend I want to Bring the War Home to? Your bike gang heros are the ones that bring war home.
My sin is to give anyone who stands with criminal bike gangs some benefit of the doubt toward their intentions.
Common sense logic tells us to associate with and stand up for people we want to be identified with.
I make no arguement that everyone at Twin Peaks was directly involved with the shoot out, but more than a few were. The others caught up in the arresting obviously were difficult to tell from the real bad guys, i.e. back to paragraph two.
In the end many may be found not guilty of actual violence, of those, many will likely be found to have been illegally in possession of a firearm at the least. The rest who end up being acquitted, will then see the cost (their legal costs) of closely associating with criminals.
I have many good friends that ride and who sort of dress up in pretend gang style. I dare say none would have ever been actually associated with the criminal gangs.
Is it a necessary part of casual riding to “dress up” the gang part? I can not see the benefit other than fantasy pretend.