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Answers and evidence in Twin Peaks shootout delayed by case complexity, police caution
Waco Tribune ^ | June 20, 2015 | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

Posted on 06/20/2015 4:11:05 PM PDT by don-o

One month after the deadly May 17 shootout at Twin Peaks prompted the unprecedented mass arrests of 177 bikers, officials are releasing limited information and say disclosure of certain evidence, including videos of the incident, would compromise their investigation.

The incident was of such a rare scale and variety that McLennan County officials had never experienced anything like it.

Their response after the shooting stopped has been criticized from some corners and spawned at least one federal civil rights lawsuit and a judicial complaint.

Now, as the media, bikers and their relatives push for answers, many questions remain unanswered because of the sheer magnitude of the incident: nine dead, 20 wounded, 177 arrested, 27 vehicles seized, 488 weapons found on scene to date.

Officials are quick to point out the criminal justice system does not work like it does on TV crime shows, despite the public’s expectations.

“This is an investigation. The term ‘investigation’ carries with it a careful and impartial consideration of all the evidence and all the facts,” said 19th State District Judge Ralph Strother. “It is not done on ‘CSI’ time. It is done in real life and in the real world. It is to everyone’s best interests that all parties know everything so that we can be fair to everyone, and that cannot be done overnight.”

The incident at Twin Peaks apparently was not captured on video by any innocent bystanders or it already would have surfaced, as in the case of the McKinney, Texas, pool party where teenagers filmed former police officer David Casebolt flinging a girl to the ground and drawing his gun on other teens who did not obey his orders.

(Excerpt) Read more at wacotrib.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bikergangs; cantcomeupwithexcuse; crybabies; policebrutality; texas; texasgatortroll; waco; wacobikers; xspurtistexasgator
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To: a fool in paradise
So, no matter who you are, whether a club member or independent, take a fresh cell phone from walmart on the ride and don't store anything in it. It isn't any of their d@mned business who I talk with, and the last thing someone needs for their legitimate business is to have clients sniffed by the police.

The whole BS about "If you aren't doing anything wrong..." is just so much steaming crap in a country which has come to damn the suspected or accused long before the facts come out.

81 posted on 06/21/2015 3:43:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: X-spurt
“lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”

Haven't you just about worn the legs off of those critters with this stale Alinsky tactic? A little bug spray and you don't get up scratching.

We're humans, and control our own behaviour. The only FLEAs are the ones with the alphabet soup names (FBI, BATFE, DHS, etc.)

82 posted on 06/21/2015 3:49:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: X-spurt

I am certain if you will read what I have posted I have gone to great lengths to point out what my concerns have been.


83 posted on 06/21/2015 4:06:34 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
Let me be absolutely straight forward for you. If you start a gunfight with the police in the adjacent parking lot, you should expect an immediate response. The police have no requirement to take fire before returning fire. The threat can be to either the police or any other person.

I don't know how long you will have to wait for your answers, but until then everything is pure speculation. The greatest of plans rarely survives first contact.

84 posted on 06/21/2015 4:52:26 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

We are continuing to talk about two different things.


85 posted on 06/21/2015 5:06:58 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

I can live with that.


86 posted on 06/21/2015 5:08:31 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Analogies are Alinsky?

Flopping try, from what little I know about Alinsky Tactics, they are a lot more complex than Country Boy Sayins, which are more straight forward in your face.

I’m with you on the BATFE, DHS etc., but the FBI has historically been a top notch pro-America outfit. Even while the halfrican was trying to subvert them, they have stayed mostly the Good Guys.

I tend to get a jaundiced view when anyone is 100% anti-LE, as they generally have something unsavory to hide.


87 posted on 06/21/2015 6:37:13 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
FBI has historically been a top notch pro-America outfit.

Best snipers in town. Ask Vicki Weaver...

Oh, you can't.

88 posted on 06/21/2015 7:22:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Touche.

May I re-phrase? Prior to klintoon, FBI was top notch pro-American.


89 posted on 06/21/2015 9:34:23 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Bingo.


90 posted on 06/23/2015 5:28:57 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: mrs ippi

“The defense on every charge will be SELF DEFENSE and it will work!!”

Please read the Texas statute on self-defense.


91 posted on 06/23/2015 12:32:47 PM PDT by TexasGator
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