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To: Republican Wildcat

I am a great lover of American history and a Civil War buff. I am humbled by the patriotism and courage of the soldiers on both sides of the conflict during America’s “Second War of Independence”. Yet, I do believe that Bro. Moore has made a valid argument to a certain extent.

The most compelling point he made, at least to my thinking, was the passage from the Apostle Paul who said we should not use our Christian freedom to hurt or destroy the faith of others.

Rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, logically or illogically, the Confederate Battle Flag has come to represent slavery and racism. Personally, I don’t see that flag that way, but I do understand why others may. And so, why should I, as a Christian, do something that hurts the spirit of some of my brothers or sisters in Christ?

However, having said all that, I believe it is none of my business what is on South Carolina’s flag or Mississippi’s flag - that is up to the people of those individual states. If they want to take it off or leave it - that’s up to them.

Also, I know that the United States flag is offensive to some - especially on college campus’s across the country. The Cross of Christ is also offensive to some, yet I would never deny it.

Again, I think it comes down to what the people of that state want to do.


34 posted on 06/20/2015 1:12:52 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Good post Rusty - sums it up nicely.


35 posted on 06/20/2015 1:14:46 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

messaging is not much more ... than a ‘profound affect’ of ‘you’ve never been!’ Today the past is ‘good-bye’?


36 posted on 06/20/2015 1:15:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Very well said. Amen.


43 posted on 06/20/2015 1:30:20 PM PDT by Mercat (Donate to Stop the HildeKraken PAC)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
34 I am a great lover of American history and a Civil War buff. I am humbled by the patriotism and courage of the soldiers on both sides of the conflict during America’s “Second War of Independence”. Yet, I do believe that Bro. Moore has made a valid argument to a certain extent. ...

I agree with your preamble. But, you have to keep an eye on brother Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. Even though the SBC passed non-binding resolutions at its annual meeting this week proclaiming that marriage is 1 man and 1 woman, brother Moore is squishy on that matter and seems to be in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens. There is a movement for racial reconciliation within Moore's inner circle and, to a point, that is good.

As an American whose parents came from Maine and Alabama, I am tired of celebrating the "Lost Cause". The CW was an immense tragedy leaving 700,000 soldiers dead over 4 years of fighting. We have just observed the 150th anniversary of the end of the CW. Learn the lessons. For me, I think Union Gen. W.T. Serman said it best ...

"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail." Comments to Prof. David F. Boyd at the Louisiana State Seminary (24 December 1860); quoted in The Civil War: A Narrative (1986) by Shelby Foote, p. 58; also in The Civil War : A Book of Quotations (2004) by Robert Blaisdell

Let us leave the divisiveness behind us, and that includes the confederate battle flag. We have a bigger, and more deadly enemy in front of us, POTUS #44 BHO and the Democrat Party. A better symbol of resistance and freedom is the Gadsden flag.


59 posted on 06/20/2015 1:48:24 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
Rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, logically or illogically, the Confederate Battle Flag has come to represent slavery and racism.

Let me supply some background and, dare I say it, focus.

The campaign against the Battle Flag was begun by The New York Times in 1991 with piece by a Southern renegade writer named Ray Garganus, who "suggested" that it was time to put away the Confederate flags.

This coincided with a new push by the NAACP to spike up black voting turnout, which has been low except in certain years, by waving the bloody shirt and shouting "cracker, cracker! Right over there!!"

Bill Clinton has always demonized the white South with quotes uttered for consumption in the black community about "them" and "those people" (meaning white men), and about how bad and hateful they are. If anyone got up and said something like that about the black race, every journalist in the United States would have a stroke.

The "Confederate flag controversy" is an artificial one, and it has always been a political exercise in blackguarding and demonizing southern white voters, for the benefit of Northern liberal politicians. The "controversy" and the identification of the Battle Flag with "segs" and "haters" and "them" has been purely a project of northern Journolisters and the NAACP.

Sorry, but there it is. Sorry you've been influenced by their clear-eyed malice.

61 posted on 06/20/2015 1:51:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
Rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, logically or illogically, the Confederate Battle Flag has come to represent slavery and racism.

With Liberals, and their ever shifting goal posts, the words "Land of Opportunity" are now regarded as racist and micro-aggressive in California's Universities.

My point here is that they will not stop once they get you on the run. They will simply come up with new things that they regard as "Racist" or "Aggressive".

103 posted on 06/20/2015 3:44:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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