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Life and death in Waco: A biker's story
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 20, 2015 | Dane Schiller

Posted on 06/20/2015 12:21:51 PM PDT by Elderberry

WACO - On a recent Sunday, a Cossacks Motorcycle Club officer nicknamed Diesel sipped a Diet Dr Pepper on the patio of Twin Peaks and broke the news to his son, who was also a member.

The 63 Cossacks and their supporters at the restaurant were not just waiting to have lunch with fellow bikers from around Central Texas. They had come for a special sit down with the Bandidos, to hash out an ongoing dispute.

Before their meal arrived, Diesel was shot, execution-style, with two bullets to the back of his head.

Cody Ledbetter, 26, survived the May 17 melee that left nine people dead, 18 wounded and 177 charged with engaging in organized crime.

His first-hand account of his father's death - and what played out just before and after - was shared with the Houston Chronicle from his home in Waco.

He disputes any contention by Waco police that there was a planned brawl between rival motorcycle gangs. He says the Cossacks were not expecting to fight. Instead, tough talk quickly escalated to bullets.

(Excerpt) Read more at houstonchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: policebrutality; texasgatortroll; waco; wacobikers
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To: don-o

Have to leave for awhile. Its time for Church in California will check back in.


41 posted on 06/21/2015 8:14:49 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: don-o

“Does anyone doubt that u/c on the job on 5/17?”

If so, he is not Voodoo, whom (Bow Tie alleged) encouraged the Cossacks to go to Waco (based on what several Bandidos told him; how Bandidos knew there was a snitch or undercover in the Cossacks I don’t know).

Anyway, Voodoo was performing CPR during the gunfight according to Ledbetter, above. “Bandanas were stuffed in bullet holes to try and stop the bleeding.” Maybe Voodoo had formal training in CPR, maybe he didn’t. But would have blood on him.

The cop in the picture doesn’t have any blood on him.


42 posted on 06/21/2015 9:26:26 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

You sure must not have read much on this and just dilettante perused


43 posted on 06/21/2015 9:29:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (#jon snow mattered)
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To: Elderberry

I’ve read enough to not believe 2/3 of these silly little stories of.the cossacks and banditos trying to avoid prison. Uh oh, starting a vendetta because I didn’t capitalize their names. I hear them coming now.


44 posted on 06/21/2015 11:00:23 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Elderberry

Bring on the biker boot lickers!


45 posted on 06/21/2015 11:09:42 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: kingu

“Cossacks where already at the restaurant, the Banditos pull up, and the Cossacks crashed the party? A ‘party’ that was a confederation of colors?”

The ‘party’ was a meeting called by the Bandidos and the place of the ‘party’ was reserved by the Bandidos. The Cossacks did not pay the proper extortion fees to the Bandidos.


46 posted on 06/21/2015 1:29:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Finny

“The article doesn’t also mention that pics taken afterward clearly indicate the presence of under-cover Cossacks — to wit, official LEO pretending to be Cossacks, perhaps Bandidos as well.”

I missed those photos. Can you link?


47 posted on 06/21/2015 1:30:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Elderberry

“Somehow I think it was over much more than the “Texas Rocker””

It was over what the Texas Rocker represents.


48 posted on 06/21/2015 1:31:53 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Well, since nobody here knows exactly what happened, I will take the word of the police over the bikers, until I see proof of something different. “

Even the bikers said the bikers were the first shooters. It just varies on which gang shot first.


49 posted on 06/21/2015 1:34:59 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: AMDG&BVMH
Anyway, Voodoo was performing CPR during the gunfight according to Ledbetter, above. “Bandanas were stuffed in bullet holes to try and stop the bleeding.” Maybe Voodoo had formal training in CPR, maybe he didn’t. But would have blood on him.

This might be him...there's blood on his hands.


50 posted on 06/21/2015 1:57:07 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: TexasGator

“Even the bikers said the bikers were the first shooters.”

They do agree more than they disagree. Weathers, Bandido, in his telling of the sequence of events is consistent with Ledbetter (and the earlier testimony of the anonymous Cossack leader).

Weathers heard the double-tap that is consistent with Diesel’s two shots in the head.


51 posted on 06/21/2015 2:00:46 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: don-o

“Did the police massacre occur because they were trying to protect ....”

Sounds like a justifiable shooting.


52 posted on 06/21/2015 2:06:59 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Finny

I stand with the rule of law. In that regard, with what we have been told, the Waco PD and the local court system look bad, very bad.


53 posted on 06/21/2015 2:08:09 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mac_truck

This guy has a white beard. Voodoo has a red beard. I think we can identify this guy if we need to. But the first aid Voodoo guy would have blood on more than his hands! All over his clothes.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas-shootout-motorcycle-biker-gang-club-members-arrests-mug-shots-photos-pictures-slideshow-gallery-charges-bond-bail/8/

or a black beard

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1443035276008196&set=pb.100009052134184.-2207520000.1434921094.&type=3&theater


54 posted on 06/21/2015 2:14:19 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“It all sounds like a lot of BS. That’s the first time I’ve heard that one.”

That story was out a few days after the shooting.


55 posted on 06/21/2015 2:20:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Oh, isn’t she sweet. A ‘A Cossack Loves Me’ patch next to a SS lightning patch ...


56 posted on 06/21/2015 2:23:37 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: mad_as_he$$

“I stand with the rule of law. In that regard, with what we have been told, the Waco PD and the local court system look bad, very bad.”

From the account in the article it sounds like the cops saved lives by ending a gang battle.


57 posted on 06/21/2015 2:45:48 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

‘A Cossack Loves Me’ patch next to a SS lightning patch ...’

Not so sweet, more deluded. Yet she is responsible for her own associations.

They don’t teach history anymore, do they? I guess in the absence of an historically informed conscience, mere “biker” “glamour” takes precedence over the real meaning of what they proudly wear on their garments. Can’t they just google the meaning of what they place upon their bodies to advertise and proclaim? OR?


58 posted on 06/21/2015 2:48:12 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Oldy but Goody.

Hells Angels try to move in on Outlaws alliance with another gang. Outlaws quench effort.

Rumors are rampant that the Cossacks were aligned with the HA’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLG0qMTJop8


59 posted on 06/21/2015 3:02:01 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
I doubt the Angels will have much to do with the Cossacks after the dust clears from this shootout...in fact Angels were seen at Candy-man Rodriguez’s funeral
60 posted on 06/21/2015 3:18:25 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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