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To: daniel1212

The Pope does not have the power to add entire categories of subject matter to the teaching of the Church.

If the Pope teaches something about the Trinity, Jesus Christ, the Sacraments, the Commandments, etc., then I am bound to listen to him.

The temperature of the Earth is not now, AND NEVER WILL BE, a subject about which the Church will have any teaching. No Pope will EVER have the authority to tell Catholics anything about the temperature of the Earth—what the temperature is, whether it is going up or down, whether it is “too high” or “too low.”

It is obvious that you are simply ignoring what I say, so goodbye. I am satisfied that I have prevented you from deceiving anyone with any intelligence.


406 posted on 06/20/2015 8:25:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
The temperature of the Earth is not now, AND NEVER WILL BE, a subject about which the Church will have any teaching. No Pope will EVER have the authority to tell Catholics anything about the temperature of the Earth—what the temperature is, whether it is going up or down, whether it is “too high” or “too low.”

You continue to evidence that you have no read much of the encyclical, as it addresses more than Global Warming. Francis (whom you call by his birth name, indicating you do not recognize him as pope) judges the claims of AGW scientists as valid, and provides the Catholic response to it as well other issues. Moreover, there was a time the Cath. church did not magisterially address other things as well, but once it does then assent to what is says is binding.

The "Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church" (2005) states,

80. In the Church’s social doctrine the Magisterium is at work in all its various components and expressions. …

Insofar as it is part of the Church’s moral teaching, the Church’s social doctrine has the same dignity and authority as her moral teaching. It is authentic Magisterium, which obligates the faithful to adhere to it. - http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html

While the doctrinal weight varies, depending upon factors, and one can internally disagree with non-infallible teaching, yet,

They have the duty of observing the constitutions and decrees conveyed by the legitimate authority of the Church. Even if they concern disciplinary matters, these determinations call for docility in charity. - Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2037.

The pope certainly has a right and function to discern new developments and to teach what Catholic teaching is in the light of social developments, including ecological damage and economy. The pope can address what Catholic teaching is regarding determining a just wage, as Pope John XXIII did in Mater et magistra.

Yet you judge the pope as being in error on AGW, and thus reject the entire encyclical as having nothing to do with the Catholic faith! And if you can do so judge the pope regarding social teaching then so can everyone else.

Catholic Austrian, William Luckey stated,

The fact that Catholic economic teaching, put forth as unchanging and required of belief, did not square with what Austrian economists know to be true, has created an agonizing crisis of conscience for such economists.

Which is what other RCs address, who oppose RCs as you:

While one is hardly surprised to find dissent from Catholic teaching among liberal Catholics, it is just as common to find it among conservative Catholics. These latter, however, since they see themselves as faithful adherents to Catholic doctrine, necessarily must create some strategy of disguising their dissent from Catholic teaching. - http://distributistreview.com/mag/2011/08/three-strategies-for-evasion/

It is obvious that you are simply ignoring what I say, so goodbye. I am satisfied that I have prevented you from deceiving anyone with any intelligence.

Rather, what is obvious is that all you have is opinions on why you can dismiss an entire encyclical as having nothing to do with Catholic teaching and thus dismiss it. And instead of you are simply ignoring what you say, your assertions have been preceded by and responded to with Catholic teaching, as is evident to anyone with eyes and intelligence. So can say bye. We can be satisfied that once again the specious nature of an RC polemic has been exposed, and the variant nature of RC unity. May all find union with the Lord Jesus Christ, the Divine Son of God, by faith in Him to save on His expense and merit, by His sinless shed blood.

414 posted on 06/21/2015 6:44:43 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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