Posted on 06/18/2015 7:31:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
In all fairness, police have a difficult job, and one where they are subject to much abuse, as well as false accusations.
So the police are typically charitable to each other, with an “innocent before guilty” attitude. However, if a cop is convicted of a crime, everything changes. All the other cops turn against him, if not actively, then passively. They will no longer support him.
Problems only arise in three situations. The first is when they turn on each other with just an accusation from an outsider. Second is when the rest of the cops do not turn on one of their number convicted of a crime.
And the third is when there is an internal dispute in the department.
“Wow. Police are PUBLIC SERVANTS. We have every right to criticize them here in the U.S.A.”
And we should. Further, we have the right to expect when one of them does something that’s illegal, that he receives justice and we all can be assured that his leaders didn’t get away with a coverup.
I hope that the killings in Waco were done within the law, but the longer the cops, DA and judges there keep the citizens from seeing the ALL the evidence, the more everyone should be concerned that they are trying to cover up unlawful acts. It continues to amaze me that some here don’t care whether the law was followed because “after all, they’re bikers” and somehow aren’t entitled to the same rights as the rest of us.
Because good cops in general are not news, while “bad” cops are
There were far worse articles when this story initially came out and I regret not saving them.
Again, nothing was done except probation for this scum
Some do. Some don't.
Not possible. The median income in Cal is $61K.
2014 Total Compensation report
From the report:
Page 6. Police Recruit Range $45,622-->$80,574
Now, read through the rest of the report and add in all of the incentives, vacation, sick time, health care and other perks.
Page 80. Market Average Patrol Officer Total Compensation: $101,942
Heres a sample from Carlsbad CA:
At least do a ride-a-long a few times with a cop and get an inkling of what they do.
What makes you think I haven't?
You could always ask if I have, rather than assume.
Video shows that there aren’t very many good cops.
If good cops were the norm, then police departments would be clean and honest, instead, they are more like Serpico.
Good cops would be turning in, and arresting, and subduing the bad cops, it wouldn’t take video to catch them.
Being passive and silent as you witness cop crimes and abuse for your entire career in law enforcement, when you are a lawman, is not being a good cop, it is being morally weak and a silent partner.
Where are those good cops? How did police and their unions, become like they are, why is their influence on city governments negative and self serving?
U are so full of crap. Police assaulting non cops without cause occurs everyday across the nation. Having a tough job doesn’t excuse malicious and violence against innocent people.
By the way. I don’t expect cops to protect me. The SCOTUS has already ruled they have no duty to do so,
Ping!
If I am speeding and I get stopped by a traffic cop don't I deserve it? By stopping me, the policeman might have saved my life
By the way. I dont expect cops to protect me. The SCOTUS has already ruled they have no duty to do so,
Correct. The only part of the process where they have any influence is when their unions lobby for laws that make it harder for you to protect yourself.
By stopping me, the policeman might have saved my life
Does the cop wipe your chin too?
Of course he is. Hence the barf that I added in brackets ( ) the to the article
Very well said
Stop being so silly and ignorant you lunatic
Stop being so silly and ignorant you lunatic
When you suggest that cops save your life with traffic tickets, it's the only possible type of response.
You didn’t understand my post at all.
Being passive and silent as you witness cop crimes and abuse for your entire career in law enforcement, when you are a lawman, is not being a good cop, it is being morally weak and a silent partner.
If good cops were the norm, then police departments would be clean and honest, instead, they are more like Serpico.
Good cops would be turning in, and arresting, and subduing the bad cops, it wouldnt take video to catch them.
“Good” means doing something good, if you notice, we never hear of cops turning in bad cops.
I expected better of Townhall. The two big reasons that cops are so often declared essentially innocent are (1) our policy of “innocent until proven guilty,” and (2) the fact that cops know the law while the people they’re dealing with/accusing them don’t.
I personally think cops should not be charged if they were following policy, as, for instance, the Rodney King cops were, which used to be a major consideration when cops were called up for being out of line, but seems not to be standard anymore. It’s why the cops who arrested Rodney King were initially cleared, but didn’t help them at all in the second trial.
Personally, I am not interested in changing the “innocent until proven guilty” standard. I don’t agree with all the laws the cops work under, but that’s not the fault of the cops. I am also at a loss as to how the cops are supposed to do their job if they aren’t allowed to touch anyone or to literally overpower those who will not comply.
I also believe that, the more people characterize *all* cops as violent and untrustworthy, the less likely good cops are to help flush out the bad ones. Demonizing an entire group rarely encourages that group to self-police; they’re too busy either being defensive, or dealing with people who buy into the demonization, be they those who are demoralized by the resulting self-image, or those who figure that, since they’re going to be considered guilty anyhow, they might as well live up to that label.
I do have major issues with modern-day policing, but those issues are with the laws the police are expected to enforce, not with the cops themselves.
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