Let's break it down. The report makes it crystal clear: at every point, the Bandidos were the aggressors in this escalating "turf war" that has been going on at least since 2013, since a club of Harley enthusiasts calling themselves the Cossacks decided to wear a patch that says "Texas" on their vests.
The ONLY "document" or evidence that the Cossacks attended an open public meeting "uninvited" -- the only source according to this news story you consider a "document," is the same only one that maintains that the Cossacks are a "criminal street gang," and that is, simply, "according to court documents."
The Bandidos are known bad-ass dudes, up there with the Hell's Angeles. Everyone acknowledges this -- they don't need no steeeking documents. Look at their faces at the link compared to the Cossacks. The Bandidos have been on a short list of criminals for gangs that "law enforcement identify as criminal street gangs" for years, and long been known among Bikers as dudes who are really bad, like Mongols and some other clubs.
They are proud to be identified as outlaw bullies and murderers and robbers, cruel extortionists, and they use fear as a weapon, as this story of "escalating tensions" between Cossacks and Bandidos illustrates.
Looks to me like the Cossacks are doing the job the cops should be doing -- standing up to these thugs and telling them to take a hike.
As per this news story, the only real "evidence" against Cossacks as anything other than men standing up to thugs, frankly, is he-said-she-said "police intelligence" accusing Cossacks of crimes for which they have apparently zero to piddling actual records.
Out of 27 individuals, 12 were Cossacks or Cossack affiliated, and 15 were Bandidos or Bandido-affiliated.
Four of the 12 Cossacks had arrest records, no mention of convictions. Charges included DUI, unlawful carry, marijuana, and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Of the 15 Bandidos, 7 had arrest records and many convictions. Charges the same as the Cossacks PLUS theft, theft of vehicle, assault theft of vehicles, "dangerous drugs," manufacture and delivery of controlled substances, possession of narcotic equipment, even assault on a child.
The Cossacks are doing what the cops should be doing: protecting their freedom of association and their freedom to ride where their Harleys when and where they please wearing what they please.
Interesting sidenote -- the Cossack "Rattlecan" who had gone to one of the Cossacks on this list (a chapter president) and told him "to bring as many of their guys to go just in case the things went bad," was shot killed during the "shootout."
How convenient for the LEO version.
Eastern, ping to my post 52 above. Please read — you can confirm that every word is true for yourself.
My musing off the release of the affidavit:
Chief of Police Brent Stroman has stated that his men were sitting in their vehicles when the violent altercation began. The affidavit that I read at the source Of another thread http://www.nbcdfw.com/investigations/Dallas-Bandido-Opened-Fire-in-Waco-Shootout-Police-308261651.html seems to rely a lot on review of recordings.
Question arises: Is it best practice when LE is onsite, ostensibly off intel that trouble was in the wind - is it best practice to be chillin’ in the cruiser?
If they are chillin’ in the cruiser, do they have a view of the guys who seemed to be forming up, adjusting and checking weapons?
If, instead of chillin’ in their cruiser, they actually had their feet on the ground and eyes on the scene, would other options have been available other that firing into the middle of the violent altercation?
The affidavit presents a picture of an escalating situation over an unspecified period of time. Chief Stroman’s statement presents a picture of a PD caught flat footed.
Two not pretty pictures.
in the source article for the above thread has the actual affidavits at the bottom. I am on a mobile and can't read them so I don't know if it has the in their entirety.
Yes the Cossacks should stand up to the Bandidos, according to their own logic, and if no one else would. They did take the worst of it at Waco apparently. Sadly, according to their logic, the Bandidos would also defend their illegitimate claim to the entire state of Texas. I am heartened to hear of your disgust for the Bandidos.
I also wonder who Rattelcan [deceased] was. With only nine to consider, certainly with all our resources, we should be able to figure out who he was. I admit I have yet to figure out which one he was.
Yet the Cossacks should not stand up to the Bandidos, as you have said the bikers would not do, in a public place with innocents around. And vice versa.
Yes finny there is a lot of detail in these reports. Maybe and hopefully this is only the beginning of the details we will see. Servus! of course.
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