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Biker Thug or Innocent Victim of Waco Police? Watch & Decide!
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 16, 2015 | Lee Stranahan

Posted on 06/16/2015 11:25:51 AM PDT by don-o

The controversy over the Waco 170 continues as mre info comes out about the people who were arrested after the deadly May 15th shooting incident outside a biker event in Waco, Texas.

Now with this exclusive interview with one of the arrested, you can make up your own mind.

Did the Waco police overstep their authority and arrest innocent people? Or did they do the right thing and bust over 170 dangerous bikers?

It’s one thing to read about it. Watch our interview with Matt Clendennen and if you can figure out who’s telling the truth: the police or the bikers?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: breitbarttexas; texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: thefactor
And they brought hundreds of weapons to a public place and a brawl broke out.

Those pocket knives, nail clippers and legal firearms stored in vehicles must keep you awake nights.

101 posted on 06/16/2015 1:34:37 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: WayneS
"Police in the city of New York arrest 140 people per day for marijuana possession. Arresting 170 people at once would barely cause a hitch in their system."

Sorry, but this is my area of expertise. Not yours. Trust me when I say that if 170 people are locked up at one time in one area, it causes many issues.

102 posted on 06/16/2015 1:35:16 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Osage Orange; thefactor

I’m thinking about changing my tag-line to:

“...those arrested were wearing vests”

...in homage to the silliest [serious] thing I have EVER seen posted at Free Republic.


103 posted on 06/16/2015 1:36:15 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: rovenstinez

You’re right about the leftover Janet Reno syndrome. Check this out:

“While in Special Operations Swanton was also involved in the aftermath at Mount Carmel and was awarded the Police Commendation bar along with his other teammates for their involvement.”

http://www.nicp.net/?page_id=45


104 posted on 06/16/2015 1:38:08 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: thefactor

Yup.
Nine people were killed. And eighteen wounded.
Not sure whether by each other or by the police. Three weeks after the incident there still hasn’t been a ballistics report released to the defense so I am skeptical as to the likelihood they shot each other.

You have members of one biker gang at an event with a lot of non criminal motorcycle clubs. The police arrest people who were eating in the patio area rather than out in the parking lot where the incident occurred (they might be guilty of actually seeing what happened though). Folks who had no police record and were not members of the criminal gang (the Bandidos) arrested and held on a million dollars bond.

That the police threw so wide a net, have refused to release video or ballistics, and have attempted to infer a retroactively existing criminal history on the Cossacks when the Texas law enforcement biker threat assessment doesn’t list them even on its lowest tier of activity all cast a bad light on this.


105 posted on 06/16/2015 1:39:17 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: WayneS

You can do whatever you wish. You’re just proving over and over that you have no idea how probable cause works. You support the bikers. No matter if they’re accountants who play biker on the weekends or if they are convicted felons who would beat the crap out of you at the drop of a hat.


106 posted on 06/16/2015 1:39:34 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Sorry, but you do not appear to HAVE an “area of expertise”.

And I notice you changed your claim from “massive backlog” to “many issues”...


107 posted on 06/16/2015 1:39:40 PM PDT by WayneS ("...those arrested were wearing vests.")
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To: WayneS; Osage Orange; thefactor; Salamander; don-o
I’m thinking about changing my tag-line to: “...those arrested were wearing vests” ...in homage to the silliest [serious] thing I have EVER seen posted at Free Republic.

It's pretty silly alright - but I think 'Assless Chaps' still has it beat. Ask Sal...

108 posted on 06/16/2015 1:40:41 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: WayneS

And evidently you’re unable to read profile pages of fellow FReepers. It’s all there.


109 posted on 06/16/2015 1:41:04 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: roamer_1
So, if nine were killed at a meeting between rival gangs in South Central LA and the cops locked up everyone wearing gang indicators I'm SURE you'd be screaming about their trampled rights. Right?

But because these bikers look like you, it's a travesty of justice.

110 posted on 06/16/2015 1:44:50 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Okay...

watch this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPCN_eeDMqI

And then tell me...everything that the cops did in Waco was righteous..in your eyes.

Do you or do you not...understand you can ride a Harley and NOT be a criminal?

Oh my gosh...they were wearing vests!?!?!!?

Lock um all up...with million dollar bonds!!

111 posted on 06/16/2015 1:45:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: ComputerGuy

“bodies being released for burial”

There was something posted a while back about a funeral for one of them in Austin. The other eight, I have not heard about.


112 posted on 06/16/2015 1:46:33 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: thefactor
Are you for real??? Are your really that ill informed, that you thinks this was a case of "hundreds of bikers with over 1,000 weapons" fighting it out in the middle of a public restaurant?

WERE YOU AWARE, thefactor, that according to the Waco PD itself, in a press release put out almost a month after the incident, there were six marked police cars visible in the parking lot before and during the melee?

You are actually buying the line that these so-called hardened criminals did all this right in front of the half a dozen cop cars that the Waco PD proudly tells us were there just in case of trouble?

And that is only scratching the surface of the many fictions one MUST believe in order to buy what the official LEO/MSN narrative is selling.

113 posted on 06/16/2015 1:48:57 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Cboldt

Just remember who the few individuals are here attempting to convince all this was a perfectly legitimate government law enforcement action.

I’ve seen their comments before on other threads/other events. It seems to be the same individuals over and over.

Just an observation.


114 posted on 06/16/2015 1:49:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WayneS
I’m thinking about changing my tag-line to: “...those arrested were wearing vests” ...in homage to the silliest [serious] thing I have EVER seen posted at Free Republic.

Just changed mine this morning or I would be sorely tempted.

115 posted on 06/16/2015 1:50:04 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: thefactor

:) Thanks.


116 posted on 06/16/2015 1:50:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: thefactor
I support individual freedom, self-determination and the Constitution of the United States of America. I oppose tyranny and the abuse of power by government at any level.

I know EXACTLY how probably cause works, and the length of incarceration and excessively high bails set in this case are not good examples of its proper invocation.

And I'm sorry, man, but if you cannot see how silly your "...those arrested were wearing vests" comment sounded, then you are a sour, humorless person.

Finally, and possibly most importantly, your argument is rendered invalid by your complete failure to mention accountants who would beat the crap out of you at the drop of a hat - because I support them MOST of all...

117 posted on 06/16/2015 1:53:08 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: thefactor

Yes. Everything you wrote is there.


118 posted on 06/16/2015 1:53:37 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: roamer_1

” Biker Vets, and and Bikers for Jesus groups “

And those were NOT arrested. Posted a few days ago.


119 posted on 06/16/2015 1:53:47 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: JJ_Folderol
Matt Clendennen News Conference:

Great find, 184 views. Pathetic.

120 posted on 06/16/2015 1:57:38 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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