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To: 1010RD
“Same gambit, just earlier this time. Given Trump’s rhetoric, he’s siphoning votes from conservatives. That helps two people who represent the elites of their respective parties: Hillary! and Jeb.”

That's nonsense! Trump is far more Populist than any of the announced conservative candidates. He is more likely to take votes from Jeb than from them, because he's not a conservative ideolog. I get it that you don't like Trump, but at least be honest about him, his message is right, you just don't happen to like the messenger.

154 posted on 06/16/2015 10:48:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Trump is far more Populist than any of the announced conservative candidates. He is more likely to take votes from Jeb than from them, because he's not a conservative ideolog.

Trump styles himself as an anti-establishment candidate. His populist appeal with take some deluded votes away from conservative alternatives to Bush in the race. So in the end his candidacy, like those of other vanity candidates like Carson and Fiorina, will only help Bush.

I get it that you don't like Trump, but at least be honest about him, his message is right, you just don't happen to like the messenger.

Trump's message isn't right because he doesn't really have a message. He's done a 180 degree about-face on just about every single issue over the years: from pro-gun control to against it, from pro-abortion to against it, from Democrat donor to Republican donor. Will those who like him for what he's saying now still like Trump when the winds blow the other way, and there's more fame and controversy to stir up by posing as a liberal again instead of as a conservative?

162 posted on 06/16/2015 10:54:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: vette6387
Trump is a fraud. He will disappoint you like Perot. How national elections work is via money. If you have a lot of money, like Jeb Bush, but are not very popular with the populist wing of the TEA Party what would you do?

Get a guy who hasn't done diddly to support TEA Party candidates in NY, let alone the country at any level, to run as a populist. Pay him later, just like the Clinton's did with Perot via NAFTA.

Trump's pushing your buttons as if it were an ad campaign. He's a master marketer and your primary vote is his goal, but not to win himself. Capisce?

I Won't Get Fooled Again

Listen to all the lyrics.

168 posted on 06/16/2015 10:58:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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