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The American middle class isn’t coming back — it’s going to die with the Baby Boomers
Salon ^ | June 15, 2015 | Scott Timberg

Posted on 06/15/2015 12:22:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: dragnet2
Well, we might ask some twentysomethings about their experiences with the economy and how we could get things back on track.

But unless u cn txt th questns 2 thm, or work it into a conversation about the Kardashians or Spider-Man, I wouldn't count on an answer.

161 posted on 06/16/2015 11:41:24 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Life's a bitch. Don't elect one.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Here’s the question you continue to evade.

Why do you think the American middle class is all but dead on the floor?

Give it a shot.


162 posted on 06/16/2015 11:55:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
1 - technology

2 - the fiduciary duty of a company to its shareholders

3 - the desire of Americans of all classes for cheaper stuff

4 - our suffocating tort law system

In no particular order.

163 posted on 06/16/2015 2:31:46 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Life's a bitch. Don't elect one.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

So you admit the middle class is all but dead on the floor. That’s good.

BTW, it seems you conveniently forgot another huge factor. It was government who opted to aid and abet an historic 30+ year endless flood of low wage foreign nations and illegal aliens into the job markets...And it continues as we speak.


164 posted on 06/16/2015 3:33:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MoochPooch
my husband was basically fired so at age 63 he has started to draw SS....

being a nurse, I could work forever...infact, most nurses in the hospital do seem to work late in life...one reason is we don't generally have defined pensions like all the other community minded workers like teachers, cops and firemen...I guess nurses aren't worth it but that's a different story...

fact is, I could no longer be an idle retiree as I could climb Mt Everest...I am not in the brochures and either is my hubby.....

we are not into "pleasure" for simple pleasure and what rocks our boat is accomplishment....goals...something to be proud of...

165 posted on 06/16/2015 4:24:13 PM PDT by cherry
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So, you’re proud of the fact that you’re both going to drain welfare money out of the government and take a job from an able-bodied younger person?

Well combined we’ve payed into the system for almost 90 years that’s hardly welfare and as far as the job there’s few if any younger person that could do it.

Hell I’m just proud I’ve lived this long!


166 posted on 06/16/2015 5:27:15 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: dragnet2
The illegals aren't making cars, or TV's, or washing machines, or computers.

That stuff's all being made in China/Singapore/Vietnam, or right here using robots.

The illegals are mostly doing menial jobs, or living off the taxpayer.

167 posted on 06/16/2015 5:42:35 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Life's a bitch. Don't elect one.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
The illegals are mostly doing menial jobs, or living off the taxpayer.

You've just proved you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

They've taken over complete industries such as service industry, restaurants, hotel, construction, manufacturing, machine shops, auto mechanics, fabrication, AC installations, landscaping, alarm install, warehousing, forklift drivers.

These were all once American jobs.

I'm behind enemy lines, I know exactly what talking about Mr. Pode. You clearly do not.

168 posted on 06/16/2015 6:52:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: cherry
we are not into "pleasure" for simple pleasure and what rocks our boat is accomplishment....goals...something to be proud of...

Wow, I'm impressed! That's what I want to do -- continue contributing to society as long as I can. Although leisure has its place, even among the young, it should not be the focus or end in itself.

Of course, I am not kidding myself. While I don't see myself playing golf in Florida, I might not be that 90-year-old career woman, either. I am just trying to avoid ending up a 70-year-old on the street with a shopping cart & 100 cats. While I'm sorry to hear about your husband, I might end up in the same situation, given my company & current job market.

Saving for later in life is not a question of retirement, it's survival. While I don't know my future, I doubt it will be elegant. My 401 is essentially the "bag lady fund."

169 posted on 06/17/2015 11:46:55 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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