[libbylu]

But unlike Treaties which are only voted on by the Senate, the Constitution requires all laws that have to do with tax and revenue to BEGIN in the House of Representatives. So what we have here is something different from a Treaty. Now if you want to make an agreement with other nations you have double trouble.

[P-Marlowe]

But unlike Treaties which are only voted on by the Senate, the Constitution requires all laws that have to do with tax and revenue to BEGIN in the House of Representatives. So what we have here is something different from a Treaty.

TPP is not a house originated bill. It is an agreement originating from the executive branch.

If it is supposed to be a tax and revenue bill, then it is not being done constitutionally. But what else is new?

Now if you want to make an agreement with other nations you have double trouble.

No, you have a treaty. Treaties are an exception to the origination clause. Treaties originate with the president negotiating them and submitting the signed treaty to the Senate for ratification. The House is not involved.