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Ted Cruz ,Pit of Vipers and the Council on Foreign Relations member in his family
Wing Right News ^ | May 28 2012 | B Nuchols

Posted on 06/14/2015 6:37:02 AM PDT by ncalburt

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To: CCGuy
“I never confused the TPA with the TPP and Cruz operatives trying to reason this is just a misunderstanding between what the TPA and TPP are is a false argument.”

You were the one who said this:

“The TPA gave Obama the authority to commit us to the TPP as shown or even allows Obama to amend it as he sees fit.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3297731/posts?page=268#268

Clearly, the TPP passing will be what commits us to the TPP. The TPA does make passing the TPP easier, though.

261 posted on 06/14/2015 10:30:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: BlackAdderess

I shook Ronald Reagan’s hand. I admired Ronald Reagan more than any other president in my lifetime. Ted Cruz is stronger than Ronald Reagan.

For example, President Reagan hesitated to invade Granada. Ted Cruz is ready to begin having military brass lay out a plan to destroy ISIS on day one of his taking office.


262 posted on 06/14/2015 10:30:53 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well on the issue of the TPA Ted Cruz is certainly betraying you.

He is trying to trick you by saying it allows 60 days, hence the name “fast track”, to debate.

The actual number of days right now is unlimited. However, Cruz is trying to act like he is expanding the debate time when they are actually LIMITING debate time to ONLY 60 days.

Moreover, he is not telling you that the TPA LOWERS THE VOTING STANDARDS, put in by George Washington over 200 years ago, to pass Trade Agreement, agreements, treaties, etc.. by changing the vote from 2/3 to 51% to pass.

So YES you are being betrayed by Ted Cruz.


263 posted on 06/14/2015 10:31:43 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: CCGuy

> “Fools care more about what someone says and less about what they actually DO.”

Ted Cruz agrees with you.

Ted’s answer to you right here at time 1:12:49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznh5AjageI


264 posted on 06/14/2015 10:33:30 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Timber Rattler

It’s obvious you lack capacity. Fortunately no one needs you.

The grassroots that are hearing Ted Cruz at town halls are enough to put him in the White House.

You can sit it out and grumble.


265 posted on 06/14/2015 10:37:01 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz is still the best candidate we have for 2016. No comparison. This little dust-up will be settled soon enough.


266 posted on 06/14/2015 10:38:52 AM PDT by TexasCruzin
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To: Hostage

Fact is Cruz is OK with giving this authority to the worst and most destructive President our nation have ever known.

Don’t talk to me about what somebody else did decades ago. Your false logic of saying it is OK because somebody else did with at least a decent President has NOTHING to do with Cruz partnering with Obama TODAY.

Your bait and switch and word games are still telling though. You can’t actually deal with or address what Cruz us actually doing now.


267 posted on 06/14/2015 10:42:32 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Hostage

Ted Cruz does not agree with me at all unless there are two Ted Cruzes out there.

The Ted Cruz I am talking about voted to give away power to Obama and then has the audacity to tell me he didn’t do that.


268 posted on 06/14/2015 10:44:50 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Enlightened1; 2ndDivisionVet

2ndDivisionVet, This is prima facie evidence of a lack of proper civics education in American schools. Civics once covered American history and the US Constitution in High School.

> “Moreover, he is not telling you that the TPA LOWERS THE VOTING STANDARDS, put in by George Washington over 200 years ago, to pass Trade Agreement, agreements, treaties, etc.. by changing the vote from 2/3 to 51% to pass.”

Well “Enlightened”, number one George Washington did not put in voting standards and number two the 2/3s vote you refer to is a constitutional requirement that applies to treaties and the US Senate. It does not apply to trade agreements.


269 posted on 06/14/2015 10:45:31 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ConservativeMind

More word game tricks.

The TPA makes it much easier to shove the TPP down our throats because it takes away several powers of the Congress to stop TPP.

TPA enables TPP. It isn’t hard to see the next logical step of a tyrant and destroyer of Liberty in Obama. Wake the hell up.


270 posted on 06/14/2015 10:46:46 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Hostage

George Washington was the president, not a member of congress.


271 posted on 06/14/2015 10:48:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Hostage

Ah, the I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express defense ;)

Reagan was a so-so actor but a great union boss and administrator. Cruz is a very bright Ivy who basically hasn’t done anything but be a lawyer and annoy John McCain.


272 posted on 06/14/2015 10:50:28 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: CCGuy

> “Ted Cruz does not agree with me at all unless there are two Ted Cruzes out there.”

Maybe there’s a glimmer of hope for you yet. Yes there is another Ted Cruz that is different than the false one you’ve concocted in your skull. Get to know the other genuine Ted Cruz and then have the class and humility to come back and state you stand corrected.

The genuine true Ted Cruz is right here at time 52:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznh5AjageI


273 posted on 06/14/2015 10:51:22 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You meant to address that to Enlightened1 because on closer look you will see I said essentially the same thing.


274 posted on 06/14/2015 10:53:01 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: BlackAdderess

> “Cruz is a very bright Ivy who basically hasn’t done anything but be a lawyer and annoy John McCain.”

Now you’re starting to show your true colors.

Cruz has done plenty. Here he is answering the likes of you direct at time 1:12:40:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznh5AjageI


275 posted on 06/14/2015 10:55:54 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Yeah. My problem is with that Ted Cruz that voted and advocated for the TPA that takes away power from Congress and gives it to Obama. Only a FOOL would trust this President and we can’t have any FOOLS as our nominee.

That guy is horrible and a fraud irregardless of any WORDS he may offer.


276 posted on 06/14/2015 10:56:15 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I trust Ted Cruz if and until he betrays me.

He's doing so right now, but you refuse to see it.

277 posted on 06/14/2015 11:02:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: TNMOUTH
Unions hated this bill...WHY?

But Obama demanded it...

278 posted on 06/14/2015 11:02:57 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Hostage

Cruz has done plenty, eh? Cruz has talked, many have done more. But kudos on the fanboy zeal, your quoting ability might even stand up to the Potter fans.


279 posted on 06/14/2015 11:03:36 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: Timber Rattler

No he’s not and you nervous Nellie’s are really getting on my nerves. If I wanted to read ludicrous conspiracy theories, I’d go to David Icke or Alex Jones’ websites. They’re both much better at it and funnier than you people.


280 posted on 06/14/2015 11:05:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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