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TED CRUZ HQ: A Note to Conservatives on Trade Agreements
Ted Cruz for President ^ | June 12, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/13/2015 4:07:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: semimojo
What authority besides the Supreme Court should we use to determine constitutionality?

Every citizen, and every officer of government who is required by Article Six to take the oath, has to determine constitutionality. If they won't, they are either a poor citizen, or a sworn officer who cannot possibly keep the oath and provide appropriate checks and balances within our form of government.

"Constitutions are not designed for metaphysical or logical subtleties, for niceties of expression, for critical propriety, for elaborate shades of meaning, or for the exercise of philosophical acuteness or judicial research. They are instruments of a practical nature, founded on the common business of human life, adapted to common wants, designed for common use, and fitted for common understandings."

-- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

-- Abraham Lincoln


141 posted on 06/13/2015 8:07:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: cripplecreek

So we have a situation wher if a candidate isn’t 100% on every single issue then they are total garbage?

Cruz is out front on everything he is about, he IMO is as good as it gets folks.


142 posted on 06/13/2015 8:10:06 PM PDT by Leto
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To: P-Marlowe
I agree heartily with your post, except for this part:

but that power was usurped in Marbury v. Madison.

Actually, modern lawyers arrive at that conclusion based on the complete twisting of one single sentence in Marbury. But there are paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs in the decision that say the exact opposite. The bottom line and summing up of Marbury vs. Madison is that the Court has to follow the Constitution, no matter what anyone else in any other branch may or may not do, and so do the other branches. Period.

143 posted on 06/13/2015 8:13:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Leto

Yup. Funny how nobody is repeatedly posting the video of Scott Walker encouraging republicans to vote for it.

http://dailysurge.com/2015/06/ugh-scott-walker-to-republicans-vote-for-fast-track-on-tpp/


144 posted on 06/13/2015 8:16:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You vote for your TPP supporter and I'll vote for mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was an early Cruz supporter.

No More! He showed his true colors by wanting to approve another “Don’t know what’s in it until we pass it” laws.

WHY does the bill need to remain secret until it’s passed?

ANYBODY who thinks secrecy is good is either evil or a traitor. PERIOD.

Cruz just turned into the GOP Nancy Pelosi


145 posted on 06/13/2015 8:18:33 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: EternalVigilance
Every citizen, and every officer of government who is required by Article Six to take the oath, has to determine constitutionality. If they won't, they are either a poor citizen, or a sworn officer who cannot possibly keep the oath and provide appropriate checks and balances within our form of government.

OK, so the fact that sworn officers of government (Supremes) have deemed these congressional-executive trade agreements to be constitutional, plus the fact that our elected, and sworn, representatives have continued to agree to and implement these agreements, means that they're constitutional, no?

146 posted on 06/13/2015 8:18:48 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: P-Marlowe
Ultimately you as a member of that special group of people called WE THE PEOPLE get to determine the constitutionality of laws.

By We the People do you mean congress? Or are you arguing for a national popular vote referendum on these issues?

Frankly, neither of those options sound like what the framers had in mind.

147 posted on 06/13/2015 8:26:39 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
OK, so the fact that sworn officers of government (Supremes) have deemed these congressional-executive trade agreements to be constitutional, plus the fact that our elected, and sworn, representatives have continued to agree to and implement these agreements, means that they're constitutional, no?

No. It means they say it is.

But they also say that denying equal protection to the sixty million or so helpless, innocent little children who have been butchered in the abortuaries since 1973 is constitutional too.

Is it?

Abortion destroys the natural law moral principles of the Declaration of Independence, our national charter, every single clause of the stated purposes of the U.S. Constitution, and the explicit, imperative equal protection requirements in two Amendments to that supreme law of our land, and the equal protection requirements of all of our state constitutions.

Who am I to believe, judges and politicians, or my Bible, the Declaration of Independence, and my own copy of the Constitution?

148 posted on 06/13/2015 8:31:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: firebrand

Bttt


149 posted on 06/13/2015 8:34:37 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: EternalVigilance
Who am I to believe, judges and politicians, or my Bible, the Declaration of Independence, and my own copy of the Constitution?

You've provided no practical way to resolve these conflicts. I guess I could rely on you and your application of the Bible's lessons to today's international trade relationships, but somehow I think the founders had a more rigorous approach in mind.

150 posted on 06/13/2015 8:36:55 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
By We the People do you mean congress?

Are you insane? No it means WE THE PEOPLE.

Or are you arguing for a national popular vote referendum on these issues?

No I am arguing for following the constitution. There is no provision in the Constitution for a federal referendum.

Ultimately it comes down to you. Are you willing to allow congress to violate the constitution or are you willing to throw the bums out and replace them with people who will.

151 posted on 06/13/2015 8:43:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: semimojo
You've provided no practical way to resolve these conflicts. I guess I could rely on you and your application of the Bible's lessons to today's international trade relationships, but somehow I think the founders had a more rigorous approach in mind.

I don't think your way, which is the acceptance of arbitrary, obviously unconstitutional absurdities, just because judges and politicians say so, is practical at all. In fact, it's about as impractical as it can get, because that, more than any other thing, is destroying this once-free republic.

152 posted on 06/13/2015 8:46:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: hondact200
Cruz’s wife heidi is also on the Council of Foreign Relations.

I donated to Cruz awhile back, this past week I received his PATHETIC email on how much he has sacrificed by running and being in office. What a wimpy crybaby email. I replied that if it is too tough on him he should stop. He should resign, go home. My response to the email was obviously not the only one because then I received a follow up from his wife. The emails were all automated, of course, his wife really did not send me a follow up. I once again said that if it was all too tough to quit and I said I no longer supported him because of his stance on this trade garbage. Then I told them to take me off his email list. Adios bud.

Ted Cruz is to a presidential candidate what Trey Gowdy is to someone that gets something done. Ted is a disappointment and Gowdy is a yapping toothless dog.

As far as Heidi she works for Goldman, evil prick$.

153 posted on 06/13/2015 8:49:12 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a free trader, I think Ted is dead wrong on this.


154 posted on 06/13/2015 8:53:53 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Leto

So we have a situation wher if a candidate isn’t 100% on every single issue then they are total garbage?


Cruz apologists take note: Keep insulting those opposed to the TPP steaming pile while Cruz pulls his McConnell two step on TPA/TPP and you can forget Cruz being the GOP nominee. This isn’t how you win back supporters wounded by this double cross.


155 posted on 06/13/2015 9:16:18 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Caipirabob

Thanks for posting this release from the Ted Cruz Crew —

I greatly admire Senator Sessions but I trust Ted Cruz.

Why? Because always tells the truth and does what he says he will do.

Ted did not have to go on two radio interviews followed by his press release. All of the other candidates in one form or fashion has come out in favor of TPA (TPP is not even in the discussion).

Here is Senator Rand Paul - October 2014.

Rand Paul to Obama: Finish TPP Trade Deal: “Instead of just talking about a so-called ‘pivot to Asia,’ the Obama administration should prioritize negotiating the” TPP.

By Zachary Keck
October 28, 2014

http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/rand-paul-to-obama-finish-tpp-trade-deal/

And I am certain I can find similar statements from Governor Perry.

Sure, there are the weather vane candidates who stick their wet finger in the air and change according to the prevailing wind.

Why else do I trust Cruz versus Senator Sessions?

Because Ted Cruz knows his way around the US Constitution like few others. Ted has successfully argued 6 landmark cases before the Supreme Court:

U.S. sovereignty against the UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas;
• The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Ten Commandments monument;
• The constitutionality of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Sexually Violent Predator Civil Commitment law; and
• The Texas congressional redistricting plan.

In the “UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas” case, Ted defended won against the George W. Bush administration on US and state sovereignty. Medellin involved a Mexican who entered the US, raped and murdered two young girls.

The Bush administration wanted the case tried through the World Court. Cruz successfully protected our Country against the right to adjudicate the case outside the US.

So, when it comes to protecting our Nation’s sovereigny. When it comes to knowing the US Constitution backwards and forwards, I defer not to Senator Sessions but to Senate Ted Cruz — hopeful our next POTUS


156 posted on 06/13/2015 10:17:47 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: BereanBrain

Cruz doesn’t want to approve a secret deal. He wants the admin to release the details now. TPA insures that the full bill be disclosed 60 days before it is voted on.


157 posted on 06/13/2015 10:29:14 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Every person who works for Goldman is an evil person?


158 posted on 06/13/2015 10:32:24 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I commend any candidate and his loved ones who is willing to run the gauntlet in seeking the presidency. I used to travel a great deal in an early job and being away from loved ones and living out of a suitcase is not pleasant.

So, when I read that letter, I could easily identify with it.

As for Ted’s wife, Heidi, she is being unfairly slandered.

“There has also been some rumblings regarding Heidi supposedly working for the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Heidi never “worked” for the CFR, but she was a “term member” of the CFR (one of 4,500 members, I might add). She is NO LONGER involved with CFR but she did participate in a Task Force on the topic of free trade under the Bush administration. However, as a member of this task force, she vigorously defended and called for free-market principles.

“Economic prosperity and a world safe from terrorism and other security threats are no doubt inextricably linked. While governments play an invaluable role in both regards, we must emphasize the imperative that economic investment be led and perpetuated by the private sector. There is no force proven like the market for aligning incentives, sourcing capital, and producing results like financial markets and profit-making businesses.” (Emphasis added).
Lest anyone question where Sen Cruz stands on CFR, his record has been UNEQUIVOCAL that he believes CFR has been a pernicious force trying to undermine U.S. sovereignty – something Sen. Cruz has spent years fighting to defend. Indeed, Sen. Cruz has a proven record of fighting to defend U.S. sovereignty.”

http://granitegrok.com/blog/2015/05/fact-or-fiction-the-world-according-to-sen-ted-cruz


159 posted on 06/13/2015 10:35:33 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: InterceptPoint

TPA is a fast track to TPP... Many of us who oppose TPA know this. TPA is a bill you can read. TPP is an agreement Obama is negotiating that will destroy our sovereignty.... We only know this because of true patriots like Sessions... We cannot read TPP. Slippery slope. I like Cruz , but he is wrong on this one.


160 posted on 06/13/2015 10:36:03 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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