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To: Springfield Reformer

> “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlGlNwsQb0";

Look at time 4:08 of the link above. I’ve seen that youtube video clip several times before and nowhere does Ted Cruz mention replacement of American workers with cheap labor driven by market forces. Rather at time 4:08 he gets to the meat of his presentation which is the retaining of top talent.

You have not had experience with working and managing top talent in scientific fields because if you had had such experience, then you would not be citing the ieee article by a failed computer programmer who found a gig to write for a journal that has trouble finding on a consistent cycle publication worthy manuscripts (IEEE is spotty). I say that because I have witnessed many programmers who thought life was about sitting in front of workstation only to find themselves out on the street after it was determined they were not productive or more accurately not qualified. Charette is so wrong on so many fronts it’s not worth commenting on. He’s a mediocre tech guy who would be more suited to running a bakery if he could handle it.

At time 4:08 Ted Cruz gets to the heart of the matter and that is America’s top faculty, in addition to scouting out American born talent, also see foreign students and colleagues that they want to retain on H1B and they cannot because there are none available and MORE IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE THEIR VOICES ARE NOT GIVEN PRIORITY.

When a top scientist pushes the envelope and needs to fill 5 slots in the laboratory and has only 3 Americans that are qualified and available, but has 2 foreign born talents that are qualified but can’t get work authorizations, then the research is hampered even crippled. And when those foreign born scientists return to Russia or China, they are used in technology development that is a threat to America. The situation is clear, the US policy on H1Bs needs reform. And Ted Cruz understands that and will act to implement the needed reforms.

Charette’s gripe is that the market is pleading STEM shortage so that they can lower costs. BULLSHIT. Charette is another whiner who couldn’t make it in the field. Like an actress who kept getting rejections at auditions, he blames it on producers wanting sex on the couch. He’s a loser.

> “I think his premise is wrong. The relationship of the STEM workforce to the STEM marketplace is actually pretty complex.”

No it’s not complex. Charette wants to gripe and he’s found an outlet.

Have certain companies found a way to game the system to get cheaper labor? Yes, of course. But whose fault is that? And when did it start?

Go back to WWII, the 1950s and 1960s, America had a race to become the most advanced technological nation, in a race with the USSR. I knew personally a GM-15 government scientist that had worked alongside Wernher Von Braun on America’s space program and rocket technology. The GM-15’s name was Dick Olson. Dick was from an era when being a government scientist meant he was worth much more than his weight in gold. It was a time when government workers were tops because it was possible to hire and fire at will in order to get the right team and keep the progress bar moving forward as fast as possible. Having the right people was essential to success or failure. When I met Dick he was ready to retire and he wanted me to take over but he told me to get clear on what I was up against. He was frustrated. By the year 1988, he recounted he could not get top talent because the goddam OPM and anti-discrimination policies had him giving workers warnings, 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances while holding their hands and talking sweet when all he wanted to do was to kick them out and get the right people on the team. And if half of the scientists he needed on his team were foreigners, then so be it because America had had plenty of experience at resettling German rocket scientists in Huntsville, Alabama and other places. There were no whiners about foreign scientists back in those days. But the result he was left with was a team of losers, of deadwood, of people that sat at desks and didn’t know asses from a hole in the ground and who would take a little Fortran course to show they were ‘high tech’.

For the crybaby high level monkey workers, they need to be drafted into the Army and have their asses kicked on a daily basis. They wouldn’t make it in the Marines, or they wouldn’t survive.

Yes I’m a mean SOB. It runs in my family. It’s genetic. Here’s a close relative of mine who’s first words in the article frame the motto for the whole family and for all of America and American history:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19700610&id=2aBWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jOcDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7173,4532608&hl=en

Ted Cruz is much nicer and gentlemanly. But behind him are a lot of mean American SOBs that are going to get this country moving again and aren’t going to put up with the likes of the whiners seen on this thread or anywhere else.

Have I missed the point of the Charette ‘article’ aka whine? No, I haven’t because there is no point. The reason American leaders are pleading for more STEM workers is not because of costs, it’s because there is not enough that are truly qualified, do or die, get it done, keep America in the lead. Whether the crybabies fall victim to a boom or bust cycle is IRRELEVANT. The true talent is always in demand. The failures can go bake cupcakes at a bakery for homosexual clientele.


177 posted on 06/13/2015 10:52:24 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
The reason American leaders are pleading for more STEM workers is not because of costs, it’s because there is not enough that are truly qualified, do or die, get it done, keep America in the lead.

Then just get it done, do or die, with Americans instead of H1Bs.

That seems straightforward enough for anyone to understand, maybe even Cruz bots.

I'm not saying Americans are perfect but I think most will rise to the occasion when given a chance. Why not give an American a chance, instead of a Bangalore sweatshop?

Your eloquence and family anecdotes aside, Bangalore sweatshops can not fly people to the moon and never could.

The reducto ad absurdum is to open all borders. After all someone somewhere will never find Mr. Perfect-Job-Applicant. Is that what you would like?

What would you tell the displaced Disney workers if they were standing in front of you right now? To pay attention to you because your relative was a general and you once worked for NASA or something and that their jobs are now being worked by Bangalore sweatshops dudes because they did not get the job done right?

We are in an economic war now. You don't beat Nazis by giving Nazis H1Bs and giving them jobs to "get the job done." There are more important things than getting the job done. People should not have to spend their entire careers looking over their shoulders every day of their careers and waiting for the axe to fall in the form of Bangalore sweatshop dudes on H1Bs, no matter how well they have done their jobs. That is reality. Your concepts are simply old news from a different era. You are simply out of touch with reality. But I'm sure you've heard that before.

181 posted on 06/14/2015 12:08:04 AM PDT by SteveH
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