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To: Isara

Then my advice to Cruz and others is to withhold their support until this
bill is Availabe to all, so it can be scored based on what is in it.

Maybe you like secrecy, but many do not.


45 posted on 06/12/2015 1:24:15 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: tennmountainman
Ted Cruz continued (from another interview). "That is one specific trade deal that is currently being negotiated. It is separate from TPA. Congress has not voted on TPP, and there's a great deal of concern about TPP. Now, I have not voted on TPP, and I haven't decided if I will support it or not, because the negotiation isn't complete, and I'm going to wait and review and see what the agreement is first before assessing if it would be beneficial or harmful."
75 posted on 06/12/2015 1:45:29 PM PDT by Isara
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To: tennmountainman; Isara
Then my advice to Cruz and others is to withhold their support until this bill is Available to all, so it can be scored based on what is in it.

Maybe you like secrecy, but many do not.


Myth 5: TPP is being negotiated via a dangerous and unprecedented level of secrecy!

Totally false. Probably the most-repeated myth right now isn’t even related to TPA but instead to the TPP, which is still being negotiated. According to the anti-TPA script, the TPP is so secret that nobody knows what’s in it, and—much like Obamacare legislation—nobody, not even Congress, will know what’s in it until the agreement is passed into law. Once again, however, nothing could be further from the truth:


Yes, protectionists have been using the same “secrecy” lines for over 20 years. In fact, if you replaced “NAFTA” with “TPP” in those old Ross Perot commercials, they’d be almost indistinguishable from the ones on our TVs today.

Bottom line: when or if TPA is passed, the general public will have months—and if the presidential elections interfere, maybe years—to review the TPP before Congress acts on it. Think that’s crazy? Well, it’s precisely what happened to U.S. FTAs with Colombia, Panama and South Korea, which were signed by President Bush but sat around (online) for years before they were submitted to, and passed by, Congress in 2011.

Lincicome2


76 posted on 06/12/2015 1:45:38 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: tennmountainman

Then my advice to Cruz and others is to withhold their support until this
bill is Availabe to all, so it can be scored based on what is in it.

Maybe you like secrecy, but many do not.


Amen!


122 posted on 06/12/2015 2:33:08 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: tennmountainman

As Cruz has stated numerous times, he does not support TPP (the trade bill).

What he DOES support is the TPA - TPA is a transparency bill. The TPA is a regular domestic law applied to foreign trade deals. The president does not have to make any trade deal public. And Congress cannot make a trade deal public if the president objects. Congress can change that rule. And that is what TPA attempts to do.


145 posted on 06/12/2015 2:56:33 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: tennmountainman
Then my advice to Cruz and others is to withhold their support until this bill is Availabe to all, so it can be scored based on what is in it. Maybe you like secrecy, but many do not.

Nor do I. There are very rare times secrecy is called for when national security is truly at stake. This is not such a time. Furthermore I remember all too well the BushBots squealing in delight every time "W" farted a new idea and it was not to be challenged because you were either with him or the terrorist and yes I remember that included FTTA which Bush used 9/11 and Iraq events as an excuse.

People please think about events of the past 17 years and the deceptions that have came out of congress and especially the Oval Office. Remember we had a POTUS who's uncle was in China negotiating trade deals with a Communist government while our plane well within international waters was forced to land? REMEMBER THE EXPANSION OF EXECUTIVE BRANCH POWERS UNDER "W" & NEW THE AGENCIES THAT ARE NOW BEING USED AGAINST US MAKING UP THEIR OWN LAWS?

Personally I'd rather see No Bills except a conservative budget passed until Obama leaves office and we know who the next POTUS is. Trust has been lost and it is the fault of both parties past and current leadership including every Speaker of the House, Senate Majority or Minority Leader, and POTUS since January 1989. They want support? Fine! Earn our trust again first and stop it with the hurried helter skelter rushed through secretive and/or unread abominations of legislation which has brought us to where we are now.

Cruze needs to back off on this issue and it needs to be dropped. Passing Secretive Legislation not involving national security is wrong I don't care who benefits. I didn't support Fast Track under Bush and I don't now no matter who is running. Right now I trust no one in federal elected office. We need to fix the huge mess Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frist, Hassert, Lott, McConnell, Boehner, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc have all created. Give anyone holding office in these times a shortcut for authority? Not on my vote.

229 posted on 06/12/2015 5:40:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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