Posted on 06/12/2015 8:03:21 AM PDT by don-o
WACO, Texas (NBC) We are getting a new perspective about what happened the day rival biker gangs shot each other at a Twin Peaks in Waco.
Me and my other friend had been inside, and we got something to drink, and we came and sat down, and we were looking at menus, and then it happened, said Kevin Rash. I mean that quickly, and we scurried inside and started getting employees into the coolers and stuff.
Rash just got out of jail and is now talking about what he saw that day in Waco. Rash was inside the Twin Peaks restaurant where an argument first started before the shooting moved to the parking lot. Last week, prosecutors described videos of the shooting where members of the Cossacks lined up on the Twin Peaks patio waiting for trouble. Rash says thats not how it went down.
There was a few guys hanging out there, but it wasnt like anybody was lined up waiting for anything, he said.
Rash says the only lineup was the people who were arrested. Hes one of the 170 taken to jail that day. Rash is a member of the Bogateers, a support club for the Cossacks motorcycle gang involved in the shooting.
“So, basically, if you support the constitution, you have to support the rights of drug-dealing criminal gangs to receive due process of law.. And if you don’t support the rights of drug-dealing criminal gangs to receive due process of law., then you don’t support the constitution.”
Well, I don’t know about your other recipients Laz, but that’s how I see it. Do you have some sort of a problem with that approach? As bad as some of the folks who were killed and wounded may be (or have been), they weren’t committing drug crimes at Twin Peaks ( at least their being there wasn’t to do drug deals, but rather try to come to “terms” with “turf issues,” which so far as I know aren’t crimes, as detestable as they may be to the rest of us). So turning a public place into a shooting gallery somehow doesn’t pass my smell test for “protecting the public.”
A lot of people have been taken back by the cop in McKinney merely waving a handgun around a bunch of relatively innocent kids, but take a completely different stance on a bunch of out of control cops and Feds FIRING AR-15’s into a crowd which also likely included innocent bystanders.
These incidents do not bode will for our country going forward, because if the LEO’s get away with what is quite likely government-sacnctioned murder in Whacko, it will encourage others to use the same “methodology” to deal with “undesirable elements” as they see them.
I have problem with people who have a problem with that approach.
Ha, pretty cool. I wonder what they do if they can catch up.
FReegards
“I have problem with people who have a problem with that approach.”
Thanks for the clarification. I could not read everything the others that you included had posted so it was hard to discern where you were on the matter.
Do you know how to access a posting history? It is a quite helpful feature.
Very astute of ya.
Under this particular situation, they were receiving Due Process.
Considering the situation was 9 killed and 18 wounded AND these same gangs having made previous threats to the Waco police, $1 million Bond was not unreasonable to keep them off the streets. Same as would be for any other TERRORIST.
A zillion dollar bond would have been best, for THAT one.
The U.S. Constitution is the law of man that we hope helps us live within the law of God.
What’s up with the constant bringing up My Lai? There seems to be some fixation with that atrocious incident.
Its not really called for nor assisting getting a legitimate point across. A bit of bullying? (Which does seem to be a much too common thread running through many of these Waco bike gang shootout threads)
I have a question you may be able to answer regarding the continuous drone of “their Constitutional Rights were violated”, exactly which of those rights did the Waco cops violate? Were the bike gangers not given due process?
From a non bike gang supporter, it seems that taking the totality of the shooting in a public place with innocent bystanders, the great number dead and wounded, combined with a record of bike gang threats to Waco police, combined with criminal records of many charged and combined with what number of persons at the scene who were armed who did not have CHL, the high bonds were necessary to protect the public and the bike gangs from one another.
If you want to rely on the fall-back position of making personal attacks, such as slinging My Lai at anyone who dares disagree, then your argument defending bike gangs will continue to lose ground as well as damage the Free Republic forum itself.
Where was this “testimony” you refer to?
What a statement!!
One interesting thing is that it is not an inquisitional system.
Hold on for a tick.
You are accusing Travis — one of the men that helped build this very forum (having been here since 2000) — of damaging it? You, who sauntered in in 2011, and would not HAVE this forum if it were not for men like Travis?
Arrogant much?
Then there you go!!
You’ve lost me but I’m interested. Can you elaborate?
They stirred the pile today and all they came up with is more stench.
I’d just as soon not find out!
Yes, well, that was certainly on my mind that Sunday afternoon, too. I don’t mind telling you that I FRequently looked over my shoulder until I got off the 5!
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