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Ted Cruz 2016 : TPA Senate Vote Good : TPA is NOT Secret Agrement (TPA & TPP Different) : 2015-06-12
Texas Supporting Senator Ted Cruz ^ | 2015-06-12 | Toby Marie Walker

Posted on 06/12/2015 5:05:09 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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To: lodi90
What Cruz is doing is running for POTUS. Obviously the big donors have told him TPP is the price of their support. Cruz doesn’t want his fingerprints on it so he supports TPA which lowers the vote required to 50 for passage.

Yep.

241 posted on 06/13/2015 12:52:19 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: American Constitutionalist

But, according to many, Cruz is finished now. He has lost 95% of his vote. Look at his FB page. How could you still like him? How could I?

Oh no! The sky is falling!


242 posted on 06/13/2015 6:02:13 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: P-Marlowe

>I’m pretty sure that Cruz was more influenced by money than principle when he voted for TPA<

Which is a massive problem and not with just Cruz. Just when I think there are at least a handful of Republicans who are not bought and paid for by the global buisnesses something like this happens. You can’t sell out our sovereignty, our jobs, and give that tyrant occupying the WH more power and expect to get my support.


244 posted on 06/13/2015 8:40:20 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: RitaOK

>The future of our country does become more perilous with each passing day. I have often wondered how long we can tempt God, and even expect to last long enough to make it through to the hope of 2016.
Then I remind myself that if our hope and our security is really all in one election, and placed in one man, then we are in ever lasting trouble anyway. If you get my drift.<

Exactly what I’m trying to say. But as you can see, I’m a “troll” for saying it.

With these playground antics I’m waiting to be accused of having “cooties.”


245 posted on 06/13/2015 8:45:25 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: TNMOUTH

Would you want those fickled voters in the fox holes when we go up against Hillary in the late summer and fall of 2016 ?


246 posted on 06/13/2015 9:43:21 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik Project : build it already Congress)
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To: LibertyLA
"There is an easy answer - this is all globalism."

Bingo, the goal, it to make the entire globe safe for the globalist elites. All those voting yea either think they are part of that elite group or are working on behave of the ruling elite. And oh by the way if the globalists succeed in creating a NWO it will not be a fun place for ordinary folks. It will resemble a feudal cast system with us being the serfs and them being the lords.

247 posted on 06/13/2015 10:25:05 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: dowcaet

Paul is right on this issue and deserves credit for being right. Does that mean I support him for president? No, he is on my list but a am waiting for the debates to make up my mind. Paul tends to go wobbly on illegal immigration from time to time and on immigration, I, like Ann Coulter, am almost a single issue voter.


248 posted on 06/13/2015 10:34:37 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Sooo Senator Cruz....do you think NAFTA was good for America?


249 posted on 06/14/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Soul of the South

The incredible blitzkrieg of explanations on why Cruz’s vote is good and smart gives a new meaning to

CRUZ CONTROL.


250 posted on 06/14/2015 2:38:37 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

“The incredible blitzkrieg of explanations on why Cruz’s vote is good and smart gives a new meaning to CRUZ CONTROL.”

Whether or not in concept the legislation is good inquiring minds might consider:

1) Obama has not demonstrated he respects the Constitution, rule of law, or individual freedom. In addition he has repeatedly lied to, and withheld information from, Congress and the people. Under those circumstances why would any member of the House and Senate vote to cede Congressional power to Obama?

2) If TPP is good for the American people, why withhold the document from the people? Why would Congress agree to restrictions on viewing the document? Why would Congresspeople voice support for the agreement without having read it and without giving their constituents the opportunity to read the documents.

3) Why would Congress approve another “free trade” treaty when the trade treaties signed and enacted over the past 35 years have decimated the country’s industrial infrastructure, resulted in the net loss of millions of jobs, enabled enemies of the US (China) to industrialize and grow military strength while manipulating currency, subsidizing exports, and engaging in espionage and cyberwarfare? Why can’t the proponents of these agreements quantify the net benefits of past treaties?

4) From a political perspective Obama has vilified Republican legislators, failed to govern collaboratively in good faith, and demonstrated an unwillingness to compromise on any issue? Given his abhorrent behavior, why would any Republican legislator give him a huge political victory, especially considering he cannot secure the support of his own party for these trade agreements?

If Mr. Cruz can answer these questions, I might be persuaded. Platitudes telling us “free trade” is good no longer work in a country where the standard of living for the average citizen has been declining after three decades of supposedly beneficial free trade agreements.


251 posted on 06/14/2015 3:15:56 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: All
What say y'all now?

EXCLUSIVE — TED CRUZ: OBAMATRADE ENMESHED IN CORRUPT, BACKROOM DEALINGS

252 posted on 06/23/2015 5:22:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Ted disagrees .... he use to agree but now he has seen the light...or has he? What do you and the other pro TPA’ers say now? Will it be more spin ignoring the corruption behind this or a straight on reversal?


253 posted on 06/23/2015 9:03:21 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Gaffer

You might be interested in this:
So, Mr. Speaker, I
am left to wonder. I mean, we have not seen this President push this
hard on very many bills over the last 6\1/2\ years, and I am left
wondering: Why would President Obama push so hard to pass this trade
agreement structure that allows him to negotiate so many deals with so
many different countries?
One possibility is he did it because he knew that Speaker Boehner was
pushing to pass it, and it is possible that he really wanted to make
Speaker Boehner and Mitch McConnell, the leader down in the Senate,
look good. That is a possibility. I don’t think it is terribly
probable. In weighing all of the evidence, it would seem to me that it
is far more probable that the TPA will give this President far more
power to fundamentally transform America in his remaining year and a
half or so as President. That is what it appears to be to me....

Mr. MASSIE. I appreciate the gentleman from Texas for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, we had a vote on the TPA here, and I just wanted to take
some time to explain, and I think my colleague from Texas probably
feels the same way. I am for trade. I think trade is good. I am not
against trade, but, today, I voted against the trade promotion
authority, which would fast track the TPP. I just wanted to take a
second to explain why I was compelled to vote against this legislation
today....

The other reason I voted ``no’’ today was the implication of ceding
our authority to the World Trade Organization, which struck me this
week when we voted to overturn our country of origin labeling on beef
and pork. Now, whether you think we should require companies to label
beef and pork when they bring them into this country from another
country—whether that is a good thing or whether that is a bad thing—
that doesn’t matter. What disturbs me is that the reason for writing
this law this week was the World Trade Organization told us we had to.
They said we have got to do that. We swore an oath to the Constitution,
not to the World Trade Organization. My concern is that this trade
agreement could bind us to things that we don’t even understand yet
because, surely, some trade agreement years ago has caused us this week
to change our food labeling laws.
The third and final reason I voted against the TPA today—and this
may be the best reason, in fact—is that my constituents don’t like it.
I have received 30 phone calls a day for the past week against this. I
might have received 1 or 2 all week saying to vote for it. We didn’t
get a chip implanted in our brains when we came to Congress that makes
us smarter than all of our constituents. I think it is important to be
humble, to know that we don’t always have the right answer. We don’t
really have a whole lot more information than our constituents have in
this case. I think that their concern that they expressed to me, like
of the President getting too much authority and that this President
does not need more authority, is a valid concern; that there is not
enough transparency is another valid concern.
I know my friend from Texas has expressed both of those concerns
himself, and I am sure he is hearing those from his constituents as
well....

Constituents were against TARP. There were people here that supported
this free trade agreement, just as you and I support free trade, but
they supported this TPA that truly will give the President more
authority.
I remember some of these same people saying: Look, we don’t have to
worry because by passing the bill we are about to pass, the President
can’t remove anybody from Guantanamo without giving us notice, and when
he gives us notice, we can stop him. I mean, I have been told that. And,
in fact, the law is, he can’t remove anybody from Guantanamo without
first giving us notice. The American people remember that.
They also happen to have noticed that the President cut a deal for a
guy that looks like he is going to be charged with desertion, and
released five terrorists from Guantanamo and didn’t give us notice
until after he had released them. So I love the optimism that says,
yes, there have been misrepresentations from this administration over
and over and over and over, and now we have had 6\1/2\ years of
continued misrepresentations from the administration, and the good news
is this time we really think he means it. Now, I love that kind of
optimism; I really do....

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2015/6/12/house-section/article/h4338-2?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Trade+Promotion+Authority%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=5

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2015/4/13/senate-section/article/s2096-1?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Trade+Promotion+Authority%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=22


254 posted on 05/09/2016 5:33:16 AM PDT by BCG
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