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To: Kaslin
Brilliant planning? You are kidding, right? The political general who ran this campaign lost more men at D-Day than MacArthur lost retaking the entire south Pacific.
4 posted on 06/11/2015 6:18:41 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: ricmc2175
The political general who ran this campaign lost more men at D-Day than MacArthur lost retaking the entire south Pacific.

Hardly. The Marines alone lost 7,000 men taking Iwo Jima.

10 posted on 06/11/2015 6:32:37 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: ricmc2175; Timocrat
D-Day was one day. Iwo Jima, Okinawa and the bloodiest battles of the Pacific lasted nearly a month. A fair comparison is to count total losses, territory and time, not just Day #1.

The fact of the matter is that the Pacific War consumed only 30% of our war resources, involved mainly U.S. troops and Navies (with some commendable help from the Australians), was fought against a far more determined opponent and still saddled us with far fewer losses.

Our blunders in the Pacific were limited to a few places like Tarawa and Pelielu. Those in Europe/Africa range from Kasserine Pass to Market Garden to the final conquest of Berlin, and scores of examples in between (Anzio, Monte Cassino, etc.).

And, yes, Ike, Mark Clark, George Marshall, Montgomery and others were political generals. The more capable (Patton, Omar Bradley) ranked further down. My father fought in that war and had little respect for the political general class.

MacArthur, OTOH, not only learned from is mistakes but became a capable postwar administrator and a hero to the people he conquered. Until another mediocre politician fired him.

48 posted on 06/11/2015 8:02:43 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ricmc2175
MacArthor in just the Philippine campaign of 44/45 had over 62,000 casualties with over 12,000 KIA. That was about three times the KIA for D day.
57 posted on 06/11/2015 8:28:31 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: ricmc2175

Wrong. Plus, macarthur did not “retake the south pacific. Time to study some history.


97 posted on 06/11/2015 12:37:22 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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107 posted on 06/11/2015 3:01:04 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: ricmc2175

Oh I do love the armchair Generals. And I’m sure you could have done it better smart guy? Someone is criticizing the planning of D-Day. I do think I have now seen it all.


118 posted on 06/12/2015 9:13:54 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: ricmc2175
The political general who ran this campaign lost more men at D-Day than MacArthur lost retaking the entire south Pacific.

Eisenhower was a political general, but that's exactly what was required in that job. There were incredible tensions between the Americans and the Brits, and I doubt there was another American who could have held them together as well as Eisenhower did, given the vast array of prima donna generals and politicians on both sides. Montgomery actually came up to him on VE Day and apologized, sort of.

123 posted on 06/12/2015 10:54:03 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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