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To: semimojo
It's fine to insist that there shouldn't be any confidentiality in negotiations, but then also admit that no trade deals will ever get done.

That is a false choice. How about another possibility... they clear up the secrecy issues to calm us down?

See the only reason they aren't clearing up the issues we have is because these bad things exist OR worse things exist.

I do not trust my government with the power they have - and hence am not desirous of willfully and affirmatively ceding the executive branch more powers.

They should clear this up.

119 posted on 06/11/2015 7:17:28 AM PDT by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Principled
That is a false choice. How about another possibility... they clear up the secrecy issues to calm us down?

How can they clear up the secrecy issues without revealing their negotiating stance, and that of all 12 members, to the world before the deal is done?

Your representative and both of your senators can go read the current draft today if they want to. We'll also all get to see the full text for at least 60 days before congress votes.

125 posted on 06/11/2015 7:23:19 AM PDT by semimojo
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