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Assad's forces defeated on roads north and south
The Telegraph ^ | June 9, 2015 | Richard Spencer

Posted on 06/09/2015 7:55:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

President Bashar al-Assad’s military has suffered two more crushing blows as it crumbles on both fronts in the long Syrian war - against Islamic State jihadists and other rebel groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: stellaluna

Apt analogy. Also nice to see the monster not being called ‘Frankenstein’ as is usually the case.


41 posted on 06/10/2015 5:02:26 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
Forgot to mention that they also have Afghanistan in their sights. A dominant lifeform (ISIS) is pushing out the native lifeform (the Taliban) in the same way an invasive fish species wipes out the indigenous species.

That would seem like good news, as the Taliban are noxious sots, but the problem is (to use an example I utilized last week) what we are seeing is burmese pythons (ISIS) devastating wild feral hogs (the Taliban) in Florida. It is a good thing that the hogs are going away, but what is replacing them is significantly more disturbing (although I have heard there are tales of monstrous giant hogs, but I'll take a monster razorback over a giant serpent most days of the week).

Here is the article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3114979/ISIS-terrorists-ambush-behead-10-Taliban-fighters-Afghanistan-bloody-rivalry-terror-groups-intensifies.html

42 posted on 06/10/2015 5:44:04 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: caww; dp0622; stellaluna

I meant to copy you on post 42 but forgot. ISIS is making major moves in Afghanistan as well.


43 posted on 06/10/2015 5:45:23 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: BeadCounter

The “Army of Conquest” one of the major forces over there, includes the Moderate Rebels but also includes Al Nusra, Al Qaeda affiliated it seems.

As for Afghanistan, Shia men are being recruited there to fight in Syria.

Assad has had 9 lives like a cat. So, I’m skeptical that he will go down.


44 posted on 06/10/2015 7:14:50 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: spetznaz

It’s been said....if the Assad regime collapses violently, it is most likely that elements of ‘the Syrian National Council’, along with others, take over as an interim government,....who have gained recognition from the United States, France and other countries as a legitimate representative of the Syrian opposition......group already has a plan for a post-Assad era.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/meast/syria-next-leader/


45 posted on 06/10/2015 7:17:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
It’s been said....if the Assad regime collapses violently, it is most likely that elements of ‘the Syrian National Council’, along with others, take over as an interim government,....who have gained recognition from the United States, France and other countries as a legitimate representative of the Syrian opposition......group already has a plan for a post-Assad era. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/meast/syria-next-leader/

I disagree with that article, and let me explain why. Also note that my opinion is worth exactly what you've paid for it (US$0), but I'll try and expound on why I think I may be right and the CNN article wrong.

My point is simple - reading that article, and its description of the 'next government' being the Syrian National Council (to quote CNN, "an opposition coalition whose leadership resides outside of Syria"), was absolute deja vu for me! It's like getting into a time warp and going back to the months before the Iraqi invasion in 2003.

Then, the talk was on the Iraqi National Congress (which was, to borrow language from the Syrian National Council, "an opposition coalition whose leadership resides outside of Syria"). The Iraqi National Congress was an umbrella opposition group based outside Iraq that was for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and during the time leading to the 2003 invasion was headed by Ahmed Chalabi. Now, at the time Ahmed Chalabi enjoyed wide support from the US Government, but it has since come out that he was not exactly 'honest' in everything he said (and he is being investigated). Anyway, politics and motivations aside, when Saddam was overthrown the Iraqi National Congress took over from the Coalition Provisional Authority, and long story short it did not work. Most of them were outsiders, especially Chalabi.

Which is why when I see CNN and people in the Obama administration advocating for the 'Syrian National Council' I get very perplexed. If putting a bunch of outsiders did not work in Iraq, why would it work in Syria?

Additionally, will ISIS ...know what, scratch ISIS. Additionally, will the cough-cough 'moderate' non-ISIS affiliated groups be okay with an external interim government stepping in?

And finally, how exactly will they retake the over 50% of the country that is currently occupied by ISIS?

Well, I hope history doesn't repeat itself and this external opposition-centric interim government works in Syria when it didn't work in Iraq (or anywhere else for the matter ...it is like George Washington kicking out the Red Coats, and then some chaps from Bermuda who had fled when it seemed the British would win stepping in to manage things) ...anyway, I hope it works but I am highly doubtful of the plans for success, and I am surprised that the government is repeating stratagems that have been proven NOT to work!

I seriously think my view is what will crystallize in that 'country.' Just like in Iraq, Syria will be splintered into several parts ranging from an autonomous Alawite section to the west, an autonomous Kurdish section to the north, maybe a small section that will be 'ruled' by the Syrian National Council, and vast vast 'wild lands' occupied by the frenzied masses of ISIS.

To convince me the Syrian National Council would work, in a place that is chaos personified, I would have to see evidence of the Iraqi National Congress working in a country that had been handed over by the Coalition Provisional Authority. If it did not work in Iraq it is not working in Syria.

46 posted on 06/10/2015 8:00:25 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: BeadCounter

“More than 120 air strikes on areas around Idlib province in the past 36 hours”

http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/04/more-than-120-air-strikes-on-areas-around-idlib-province-in-the-past-36-hours/

SOHR documented 123 air strikes by regime warplanes and helicopters on Idlib during the past 36 hours.”

So, Regime (Assad) warplanes. That’s a lot of air strikes.


47 posted on 06/10/2015 8:14:04 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: spetznaz
...”If putting a bunch of outsiders did not work in Iraq, why would it work in Syria?”...

It's not expected to work....it's meant to hold and sustain temporarily....which did work in Iraq as planned. ISIS is not void of leadership or they would not be advancing as they are...leadership among the Muslim nations are assisting that control and they will have a say on when and if ISIS advances or not....

I don't know what the outcome will be...but there will be a Caliphat in time...and leaders controlling that. Who comes out on top of that leadership is up for grabs....thus war.

48 posted on 06/10/2015 8:18:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: BeadCounter
American intelligence agencies seized a trove of information about ISIS in a raid in Syria...


49 posted on 06/10/2015 8:25:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yes, especially since all morning, Drudge has had the headline up that they could have the makings of a dirty bomb per seizing materials in places like hospitals.


50 posted on 06/10/2015 8:29:49 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dp0622
Syrians on their way to....America? 1000 monthly marked to come here.


51 posted on 06/10/2015 8:38:27 AM PDT by caww
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To: dp0622
Syrians on their way to....America? 1000 monthly marked to come here.


52 posted on 06/10/2015 8:38:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: BeadCounter
You know all these refuges throughout the ME and Northern Africa pulling out of their nation states does make one wonder if the idea is you leave before the International Community coupled with certain Muslim countries....comes in ‘full force’....and I believe Russia with them.

What if all this movement of Russian military to their borders has nothing to do with Ukraine but a bigger push we have yet to see in the Middle East they are all preparing for and all these refugees know it's coming....as does the UN...and why this big push to get as many out of these nations and dispersed throughout Western countries that can support them for a time while the “House” gets cleaned.

53 posted on 06/10/2015 8:45:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: House Atreides

Anyone who correctly references Camp of the Saints has my vote.

It is a very important book, albeit translated from French and sort of stilted sometimes.


54 posted on 06/10/2015 9:27:01 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (B.L.O.A.T. : Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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