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To: CatherineofAragon

I am not very familiar with Gothard but looked him up after you mentioned the name. The highly controlling and domineering leader, twisted biblical references for brainwashing, rape and forced marriage of the girls is something we’ve seen time and again, lately with Warren Jeffs. Also key is keeping the young boys back so that the sick old guys can soil the young girls.

Are you saying that the Duggar’s are into that degree of degradation? I am asking sincerely as I do not know much about Gothard or the Duggar’s other than what you see. I heard the interview and could easily see some disturbing naivete or cluelessness about sexual growth and what their son was screaming out about.

The whole repressed lifestyle I think is at the core of Josh’s pent up sexual tensions and explosion. He was like a pot of boiling water where the heat got too hot and the lid just wouldn’t stay down. Dad and Mom were no help to him until they realized he was at the verge of very serious felonies. Really a sad situation. I don’t wish to judge them as I am an imperfect Catholic myself. I just don’t relate at all to the manner they apply their beliefs in their lives and how they raised their children.


124 posted on 06/04/2015 11:08:15 AM PDT by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: untwist

The Duggars are the poster children for Gothard.

Repression didn’t make Josh crave a 5yr old girl anymore than ‘if they’d only let them marry!’ caused the issues in the Catholic church.


127 posted on 06/04/2015 11:11:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: untwist

http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2015/05/gracenote/

That’s the document the Duggars would have used to ‘handle’ Josh’s problem.


129 posted on 06/04/2015 11:13:13 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: untwist

Your comparison between Gothard and Warren Jeffs is very apt.

To clarify, no...I don’t believe the Duggars are into that kind of thing. But there are signs of issues with sex in the family situation.

Agree with you about the severe repression. Josh was taught that he couldn’t even look at a woman, and Michelle Duggar said she regretted the immodesty of kissing her husband before they got married. Like you, I’m a sinner, but there’s nothing normal in any of that.


130 posted on 06/04/2015 11:18:09 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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