Officials: Oklahoma man shot, killed by police shoved trooper

Brandon Fischer said that they were both making their way through a bottle of Crown Royal.

No, once again, the POLICE SPOKESHOLE said that Brandon Fischer said that they were both making their way through a bottle of Crown Royal.

I think anyone who has experience with alcoholism would say that a person who thinks nothing of downing shots of hard alcohol when he knows he has to drive at night in a storm is what you call a "problem drinker."

LOL!:

[Mike] Haesloop, who was Fischer’s high school basketball coach and his father’s tax preparer [said]: “I’ve known Nehemiah for years. Never known him to drink...

Now you're smearing the dead guy as an alcoholic and a "problem drinker".

kiryandil wrote: "The only place George Zimmerman could back up was into the sidewalk."

fastasleep replied: That's silly.

He could have run away, as so many commentators argued.

As anyone who followed the Zimmerman-Martin case [as you apparently did not] could tell you, I was referring to the part where Martin jumped Zimmerman and had him on his back, beating his head on the pavement.

Officer "Ironman" Taylor had PLENTY of time to perceive what was happening, unlike Zimmerman, and could have retreated to safety, instead of leading with his chin and his magic aura.

The trooper was standing in water and literally could not see the ground in front of him.

Why did the video that the police spokeshole showed to the reporters show the troopers waiting for the brothers wading quickly through the water? Did you see a different video?

...he had absolutely no obligation to retreat.

As I posted before, this training is eventually going to cost a great many police lives. It's not "a duty", it's not even "a policy". It's just tactically stupid.

If Nehemiah Fischer, drunk and belligerent, had attacked a civilian Good Samaritan who was trying to help him avoid drowning in a flood, and that civilian had decided to hold his ground, you would call it a 'good shoot."

A "civilian" [what, are polices "military"? I thought they, too, were civilians...] Good Samaritan isn't going to be stupid enough to stand around badgering a couple of people in the water until he provokes them. Nor would he be stupid enough to lead with his chest, but would rather beat tracks for his vehicle at the first hint that his mouth got him in trouble.

Everything you write proceeds on the assumption that the Fischer brothers did the right thing in assaulting a police officer who had not lifted a finger against them, and that he had no right to self-defense.

This is obviously false and you cannot justify it.

Brandon Fischer told the police who interviewed them they had both been drinking. The OHP lawyer would not repeat that unless he could prove it: if Nehemiah Fischer was sober, his family could easily produce a blood test contradicting it and sue him.

Nehemiah Fischer's old high school coach says he wasn't a drinker: Facebook photos prove otherwise.

If George Zimmerman only had the sidewalk beneath him when he was knocked down by a thug under the influence, Michael Taylor had only the muddy asphalt beneath him when the same thing happened to him.

How is it that Zimmerman's mouth was not the cause of the trouble, but Taylor's mouth was exactly? Fischer's mouth, preoccupied with guzzling whiskey, was the real source of the problem.

You beclown yourself with your deluded double standards.

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