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To: RitaOK
God bless, Rita.

Please oblige me -- what was the simple question? Because it is you, I will do my best to answer it based on the info I have.

In return, I have a simple question for you. If the vast majority of these people were criminal bikers, why is it that only about one third of the 170 arrested have criminal records in Texas?

What is your answer to that? That it was dominated by out-of-state biker gang criminals? Or that the majority of criminal bikers have no records?

The answer to that may explain exactly why you are seeing so very little in the way of "remotely sympathetic" to the "cop on the beat that Sunday," which was actually 22 cops at the site before any shooting even started.

229 posted on 06/03/2015 12:55:44 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

I greatly appreciate where you are coming from and of your own experience in absorbing this story.

I have no experience with bikers but for some beautiful people who happen to be Christian and helpful to all charities, etc., any excuse to get out, get on and enjoy the sun and the wind. They are all sportsmen, many retired, veterans of the sort who would, if in proximity, be the first to turn out to protect and defend military funerals from the likes of the West Borough Baptist Church insanes.

Also the records and rap sheets of the bikers, for DUI’s and brawls of youth don’t bother me. Gang warfare of the California sort would, of course. I’m stereotyping, admittedly.

My question is not about the bikers or against the bikers. That story, their story, seems to be coming out. Over time, maybe I will my answer, and get to read an accounting of the cops and other law enforcement agencies, like the ATF, whatever, maybe that will come out.

Anything to do with the name, “ATF”, sets off auto alarm, naturally, and it’s well deserved for them. They’ve earned it.

No, my question is why the typical Waco cop, who was stuck in that melee, assigned to it, was made to be so psyched with fear and adrenalin, alarm, anxiety and really, panic, that it was a bath for nine souls.

Keeping in mind that I am not really following this saga, which is admittedly worthy of a soap opera, I am nevertheless dying to know the inroads of what the cops evidently caused, in this event. It is the “why” and what was behind the cops that caused anything to start in the first place, with the cops, and “why” it ended, by the cops, as it did. I am very interested in the causal affects and focused solely on the cops.

Waco people know these cops, their kids probably go to school together, and church. If cops are still human too, they are probably married, maybe soccer coaches, whatever. So, what is the deal, here, that their training took second place to emotional reaction that is being deemed unsound?

I want to understand them first. I want to know what happened in their head that they were emotionally overwhelmed and who set them in that mindset. WTH was their training, for example? Are they made to fear everyone in these times? A traffic stop?

The pile on from Ferguson and Baltimore against cops and the abuse of cops has set my fury aflame. These two events have been unfair, uncalled for and unsupportive of guys willing to risk their life every day for 8 to 10 hours. I have that to settle in my mind, before I worry about a convergence of bikers in a shopping center. I just don’t yet care about the bikers until the cops are understood, for good or ill. I just want the story on the cops.

In fact, these days with things reaching out to annihilate cops whole sale, it’s almost a shame to even worry stressed out cops, with some big @$$ crowd of a bunch of unknowns, from who the hell knows where, converging in any town just because they want to, but that’s just me. The cops need some protection of their own today. They definitely need a break.

So, all this to say, that I guess that causal story on the state of mind of the cops just isn’t out. It probably calls for an investigation that hasn’t yet taken place to get to the answers I’m looking for.

As for the legal system and any dirty leadership in high places being unfair to the bikers, I have a feeling that will sort itself out. Corruption in these positions of power are rampant it seems, but the cops on the scene aren’t leadership, but are subject to it. I want to know what impact the superiors and the leadership have on the cop in Waco, who was on scene. Who planned the strategy for that day? Why were they so over psyched and blew up in a crisis?

Our whole country is on the tip of a needle. That’s 90% of the problem, here. Thanks for your patience. Rita.


230 posted on 06/03/2015 9:07:14 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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