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To: ifinnegan; Finny; Travis McGee

” Knowing what actually happened and is true, though, is never an encumbrance on those pushing agenda driven narrative.” —— *ifinnegan

That’s for sure.

But, first of all, I’m not following this story chapter and verse, and the reason I’m not following it chapter and verse is because the story hasn’t yet produced the police department’s side of this momentous event. I mean what is there to follow, until which time that the department gets to speak too?

I don’t have all that much difficulty in understanding why the convergence of many different organizations of this magnitude, all together appearing in one shopping center would not be of some degree of interest to the police department of any town or city, even if they are cub scout troops, since crowd control is not a foreign concept for that reason alone.

Did something go wrong? Of course. Yes. Are we completely opposed to even hearing the department’s accounting of what went wrong?

I am sorry for what went wrong. A bathroom fight led to deaths. I believe cops were fearful and defensive. I want to know why.

Absolving the bikers entirely and eviscerating the cops, who lose their jobs for talking, doesn’t yet end the story for me

So far the story is media owned by the biker fans, the biker clubs, the biker blogosphere, even the biker witnesses on scene.

I still want to hear why the cops were so fearful if these “clubs” of bikers were, to the last man, all simply a crowd of cup cakes blowing into town.


170 posted on 06/02/2015 9:28:22 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK
Rita, nobody here is claiming that they were all cupcakes.

What's gone down quite obviously is that LEO assumed the opposite, arrested them, and are holding them on clearly EXCESSIVE bail after killing 9 of them.

They (LEO) claim that it was biker-on-biker shooting and violence and they (LEO) came later, but the actual evidence as is easily seen and verified, indicates that they (LEO) were lying in wait, that they fired into a group KNOWING that many there were no more than Sunday bikers.

Evidence in photos of the scene so far pretty clearly indicates that the 22 LEO on the scene (officially acknowledged, not just rumor) not only risked those innocent lives by shooting into innocent bystanders in order to take out supposedly known criminal bikers with records (although to date, reports are that of the NINE dead, only a few had police records, which Rita, should make your blood turn cold), but arrested and continue to hold people whose only crime was BEING THERE.

There is no mystery to this. It isn't rocket science. But it does require self-responsibility to search, read, and think for oneself. That's the difference between leftist sheep and free Americans -- one allows themselves to be spoon-fed the "news" and relies on "trusted" sources to do it, the other thinks for him/herself based on conclusions drawn from info he/she has searched out and pondered.

171 posted on 06/02/2015 10:00:03 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: RitaOK

“...But, first of all, I’m not following this story chapter and verse, and the reason I’m not following it chapter and verse is because the story hasn’t yet produced the police department’s side of this momentous event. I mean what is there to follow, until which time that the department gets to speak too?...”
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Are you being sarcastic? The ONLY “side of this momentous event” produced so far HAS been that of the police department. Admittedly, they are (for whatever reason) withholding massive amounts of actual data/evidence. The bikers’ sides? Hell, they’re being held and are, in essence, incommunicado.


202 posted on 06/02/2015 6:16:52 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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