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It's Official: Natural Gas is Killing Coal
Motley Fool ^ | May 31, 2015 | Justin Loiseau

Posted on 06/01/2015 4:42:02 AM PDT by thackney

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1 posted on 06/01/2015 4:42:02 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

Natural gas isn’t killing coal but the Obama Regime.


2 posted on 06/01/2015 4:45:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The Obama Admin makes the coal power plants more expensive to run.

The Natural Gas boom in supply makes the NatGas competitively priced for base load power generation.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 4:47:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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The gas glut should depress the price of coal and exports should pick up.

What country is planning to burn more, not less coal ?


4 posted on 06/01/2015 4:49:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: thackney

>> When a $2 trillion financial institution deems an entire fuel source too risky for returns

I bet their divestiture has more to do with political correctness than financial risk/reward ratios.

B of A has long been a sucker for whatever goofy thing a liberal administration pressures it to do.


5 posted on 06/01/2015 4:52:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What country is planning to burn more, not less coal ?

China's coal use is down, I'm not sure of any significant country planning to use more coal.

6 posted on 06/01/2015 4:56:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Japan.
Japanese nukes are out of favor...


7 posted on 06/01/2015 5:05:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

True, I had forgotten about them.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-continues-to-re-embrace-coal-1426162227


8 posted on 06/01/2015 5:09:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; thackney

Throw in Germany as well. they panicked after the Fukushima tsunami and threw away all of their nuclear capacity to chase after the imaginary Nirvana of “renewables”, and all they ended up doing was burning more coal. Mostly lignite, the worst polluter (other than biomass) of the lot.


9 posted on 06/01/2015 5:12:18 AM PDT by chimera
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Brown coal...


10 posted on 06/01/2015 5:13:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: thackney
It's killing everything. Two perfectly functional nuclear units, Kewaunee and Vermont Yankee, were thrown away ostensibly because they were "not competitive". Although in the latter case everyone knows it was political, and economics made for a convenient scapegoat.

They only thing that isn't being hurt are the heavily-subsidized "renewables". In the most recent New England power auction, wind generators in the Northeast were able to bid negative prices into the auction and still make a "profit" because of the subsidies. I always say those kinds of wind farms don't farm the wind so much as they farm the subsidies.

11 posted on 06/01/2015 5:17:45 AM PDT by chimera
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There is an interesting occurrence locally.

A large chemical plant has converted 2 of it’s 5 generators to natural gas and ran a pipeline 6 miles from the pipeline end into the plant. The power plant makes electricity and process steam.

The company has two large coal gassification plants that convert coal to syngas to chemicals. The company either acquired or re-purposed existing property to coal storage and are amassing huge piles of coal.

I don’t know if the coal is being received under existing contracts requiring the purchase or to purchase coal while it is cheap. Either way, it is strange that conversion to gas has resulted in stock piling coal.


12 posted on 06/01/2015 5:18:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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Germany

The government is applying US-style regulatory tactics to reduce emissions from coal-powered plants by setting ever higher standards. Under the plan announced by Sigmar Gabriel, the economics and energy minister, the rules will eliminate some 22m tonnes of carbon emissions and allow the country to meet its targets for 2020.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a7ffe5ce-0215-11e5-92ce-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3boQPr54C


13 posted on 06/01/2015 5:18:36 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: chimera

It’s fun, when visiting downtown Louisvilly KY, to watch coal barges pass each other on the Ohio River.

Cleaner, low sulfur coal going upriver for the electric plants, high sulfer coal heading downriver, where it will be put on ships in New Orleans and shipped to Germany.


14 posted on 06/01/2015 5:20:14 AM PDT by tanknetter
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15 posted on 06/01/2015 5:20:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
...coal-fired power plants are retiring left and right.

We will regret the mindless elimination of coal as a power source. We are putting too many eggs in the green energy basket.

Utilities shuttered 4,100 megawatts' worth last year, and are on track to close an additional 12,800 MW in 2015.

Coal producted 2B megawatt hours in 2005 versus 12,800 shut down? That seems tiny. What am I missing?

16 posted on 06/01/2015 5:22:42 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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In fact, that's why China--as part of the New Silk Road project--will import natural gas from Russia in a BIG way over the next 30 years. And with good reason: natural gas burns far cleaner than coal, and emission controls on natural gas-fired power plants are vastly cheaper than installing Western-style emission controls on coal-fired power plants. That scary experience in China with the deadly smog from coal-fired power plants in 2013 convinced the Chinese government they need an alternative, and at least in the short to medium term, natural gas is the best choice.

In the longer term, China will likely aggressively pursue solar power for individual homes and for industrial use, safer forms of nuclear energy--for example the thorium-fueled molten salt reactor.

17 posted on 06/01/2015 5:23:15 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: thackney

There will always be a place for coal.

If I owned a power plant, I would find a lot of comfort in seeing a massive mountain of coal right outside I could access to burn, instead of simply relying on the transportation of a product down a pipeline that could be sabotaged.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 5:24:20 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Are you comparing MWatts to MWatthours?


20 posted on 06/01/2015 5:28:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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