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Administration preps new gun regulations
The Hill ^ | May 30, 2015 | Tim Devaney

Posted on 05/30/2015 12:41:56 PM PDT by jazusamo

The Justice Department plans move forward this year with more than a dozen new gun-related regulations, according to list of rules the agency has proposed to enact before the end of the Obama administration.

The regulations range from new restrictions on high-powered pistols to gun storage requirements. Chief among them is a renewed effort to keep guns out of the hands of people who are mentally unstable or have been convicted of domestic abuse.

Gun safety advocates have been calling for such reforms since the Sandy Hook school shooting nearly three years ago in Newtown, Conn. They say keeping guns away from dangerous people is of primary importance.

But the gun lobby contends that such a sweeping ban would unfairly root out a number of prospective gun owners who are not a danger to society.

“It’s clear President Obama is beginning his final assault on our Second Amendment rights by forcing his anti-gun agenda on honest law-abiding citizens through executive force,” said Luke O’Dell, vice president of political affairs at the National Association for Gun Rights.

The Justice Department plans to issue new rules expanding criteria for people who do not qualify for gun ownership, according to the recently released Unified Agenda, which is a list of rules that federal agencies are developing.

Some of the rules come in response to President Obama’s call to reduce gun violence in the wake of Sandy Hook. He issued 23 executive actions shortly after the shooting aimed at keeping guns away from dangerous people, and some of those items remain incomplete.

“If America worked harder to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, there would be fewer atrocities like the one that occurred in Newtown,” Obama said at the time.

“We can respect the Second Amendment while keeping an irresponsible, law-breaking few from inflicting harm on a massive scale,” he added.

Gun control groups have rallied around Obama’s call to action, zeroing in on polices that would keep guns away from the mentally ill and domestic abusers.

Congressional efforts to expand background checks and keep guns away from dangerous people have failed in recent years, but the legislative defeats won’t stop the Justice Department from regulating.

The Justice Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is looking to revive a rule proposed way back in 1998 that would block domestic abusers from owning guns.

As proposed, the regulation makes it illegal for some who has been convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence offense to own a gun.

The ATF plans to finalize the rule by November, according to the Unified Agenda. But gun rights advocates are concerned the Obama administration will use this rule to unfairly target certain gun owners.

“That could be a person who spanked his kid, or yelled at his wife, or slapped her husband,” warned Michael Hammond, legislative counsel for the Gun Owners of America.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Americans for Responsible Solutions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

But Everytown, a group financially backed by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, has argued that keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers can be a matter of life or death.

“American women are 11 times more likely to be shot and killed than women in other developed countries,” the group argues. “The high rate of domestic violence deaths in America is directly related to our weak gun laws. But we know that smart gun laws can—and do—stop domestic abuse from turning into murder."

The ATF is also looking to prohibit the mentally ill from owning firearms, which is attracting even more criticism from gun rights groups.

“The Obama administration is trying very hard to disqualify people from owning a gun on the basis that they are seeing a psychologist,” Hammond argued.

The NRA contends that many people who are mentally ill may not necessarily pose a danger to society — or as the gun lobby puts it, the policy “snares masses of mostly harmless individuals.”

Gun rights advocates argue it would be more effective to ban people on an individual basis, as opposed to banning all people who are mentally ill.

“A person who experienced a temporary reaction to a traumatic event or who has trouble handling household finances may well be treated the same as a violent psychopath,” the NRA wrote.
 "Not only is this unjust and stigmatizing, it creates disincentives for those who need mental health treatment to seek it, increasing whatever risks are associated with untreated mental illness,” it added.

Aside from these issues, some gun rights advocates have also raised concerns about upcoming ATF rules that would require gun dealers to report gun thefts, provide gun storage and safety devices, and place restrictions on high-powered pistols, among other things.

“The Obama administration hates the Second Amendment, and it’s clear that every place where it can push, it will,” said Hammond. “This is an indication of an anti-gun administration trying to annoy us in any way it can."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; atf; banglist; doj; goa; gungrabbers; nra; obama; secondamendment
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To: faithhopecharity

“It’s impossible to fathom why these people keep trying to disarm Americans”

No, it’s easy to explain. I can’t begin to tell you how terrified the NWO elitists are of armed citizens, a patriotic US military and veterans.


41 posted on 05/30/2015 2:48:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: clearcarbon

I’d say there’s a fair chance of it being that 0bama and Holder did everything they could to divide the nation.


42 posted on 05/30/2015 2:55:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: Gideon300

Take a look at post # 24, regarding CT and NY non-compliance.

Also, in smalltown USA where I live, everyone knows police officers and sheriff’s deputies and where they live. Food for thought.


43 posted on 05/30/2015 3:28:30 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The so-called Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group.)
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To: Gideon300

We disagree is all.
I do not see most Americans as doing what you predict.
Very few, IMHO.

But anyways, its just my opinion.
Thanks,


44 posted on 05/30/2015 4:16:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: sergeantdave

They may be terrified of armed American citizens, yes.
Little they can do about it, IMHO.
Prohibition didn’t work, anti-marijuana laws didn’t work, anti-pornography laws didn’t work...etc and etc and etc.


45 posted on 05/30/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: jazusamo

Seems another round of mass gun buying will be in order.


46 posted on 05/30/2015 4:19:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: DaveA37

“Personally I still question the story about Sandy Hook.”

Sandy Hook was about a horrendously stupid woman making firearms readily available to her psychopathic son. She paid for her stupidity with her life and unfortunately a number if others did too.

No gun law would have prevented her from acting on her stupidity.

The end.


47 posted on 05/30/2015 4:24:34 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Ouderkirk

“NY unSAFE Act....compliance was nearly zero.”

You have any further info on that? Just asking.


48 posted on 05/30/2015 4:26:36 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

So far the NYS Police and others are refusing to disclose their registration compliance numbers. SCOPE NY went to court to force the release and won, but so far they have not produced those numbers.

Which in my mind means that it was near zero. I’ve heard from NYS Police that I know that the number is in the 3-4 thousand out of several million rifles.


49 posted on 05/30/2015 4:58:10 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: jazusamo

Lie. Defy. Do not Comply.

If it works for Lois Lerner, Eric Holder, Barack Obama (shortened list) why cannot we use these same tactics?

F em all.


50 posted on 05/30/2015 4:58:53 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Gideon300
Besides, what would YOU do if a SWAT team stood at your door with a warrant, or whatever is needed, to search your premises for weapons? Would you have a shoot-out with them? I doubt it.

I will die anyway at some point on this earth. Why not die for a higher calling, such as standing up for the 2A?

Yes, I would be and am willing to die to protect what is mine, if a thug tries to take it or someone from Fedgov tries to take it.

I understand my mortality; the fact that I do is the greatest threat to them should they ever try anything.
51 posted on 05/30/2015 5:02:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Jack Hammer
Hopefully the Supreme Court will overturn this on appeal, but it may require such an act to undo this blatantly unconsitutional move by America’s Lenin.

Hopefully by the time this reaches the Supreme Court (I'm thinking at least a year from the time they go into effect, possibly 2-3) we have a Republican President prepared to put two and possibly three Conservative justices on the Supreme Court. Given the anticipated retirements/deaths following the 2016 election (Scalia and Kennedy, possibly Ginsburg).


52 posted on 05/30/2015 5:04:45 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Gideon300

A few things for you to consider:

1. The SWAT raids will succeed - at first and for a while. Then they will begin to encounter the kind of resistance that will ensure that at least some of them will not be going home.

2. The ones who send them will find their lives have become nasty, brutish and short m

3. All of them have families and friends.

4. There will be no rules of engagement - only retaliation and retribution.


53 posted on 05/30/2015 6:04:05 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Rinestoration. Retribution.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m guessing they’ll be unconstitutional and over reaching.


54 posted on 05/30/2015 6:18:46 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Noumenon

One thing to remember. SWAT teams members have family too.

If they are going to enforce unconstituonal laws, then anything goes.


55 posted on 05/30/2015 6:19:25 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Noumenon

Not only SWAT teams, but those of higher pay grade as well, including elected and appointed officials, media propagandists, “activists” and other assorted anti-Constitutionalists, Statists and Communists. If push comes to shove, a relatively target-rich environment for anyone who cares to take interest. It would be best to stay well clear of this hornet’s nest.


56 posted on 05/30/2015 6:25:47 PM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: aragorn
no quarter...
57 posted on 05/30/2015 7:08:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Drew68

It did.


58 posted on 05/30/2015 7:19:28 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Chode

Yup. They will not learn the required lesson otherwise.


59 posted on 05/30/2015 7:27:48 PM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They don’t have to take your guns when it’s easier to take your children.

Your wife will take your guns to them herself to get the children back.

Removing all firearms from the home is step one in all Family Children Services reunification plans. It happens every day.


60 posted on 05/30/2015 7:41:48 PM PDT by Noamie
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