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To: AMDG&BVMH

They might have been shot by aliens, poltergeists, or your aunt Sally.

I’m betting on 5.56mm from SWAT carbines. May believe any fairy tale you choose, or none at all. I could not care less what you think, until you posit a more credible scenario in accordance with the known facts.

Go stare at your navel by yourself, Hamlet. I don’t have time to help you there.


128 posted on 05/29/2015 9:07:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Still no coroner...


129 posted on 05/30/2015 4:16:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Travis McGee

Tomorrow will be two weeks. Times up. Sometimes what is not said, not printed speaks louder than any voice. Since those who have the facts are not sharing one can only logically conclude the facts reflect poorly on them. At this point they have two options, as I see it. To me it would seem best if they told the truth and embraced the CF. To believe they could think this could be covered up and go away would be a mistake for so many reasons. While there may be some who believe this is trivial in the larger scope of things, one more step in the path to a police state is what the inevitable consequence others will take advantage of. If those others are to be stopped doing so now will ultimately be far less painful, far less blood shed. Had I the ear of those who know what the truth is and still love America I would beg them to lance this pus filled abscess now. Americans will never tolerate a police state. They will not be able to recruit enough police to control us. Please, think again. Do the right thing now before it is too late.


130 posted on 05/30/2015 4:56:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Travis McGee

“They might have been shot by aliens, poltergeists, or your aunt Sally.”

You can rule out Aunt Sally. I don’t have an Aunt named Sally.

Otherwise, that is the point I was trying to make. Apparently you get it. Your examples above are completely hypothetical. If one posited the second hypothetical above, one would then be looking for facts supporting that hypothesis. Perhaps seeing orbs of poltergeist energy in the photos, perhaps seeing the physical disorder of the scene as consistent with psychic energy.

Instead, there is no basis for postulating the poltergeist hypothesis to begin with. Especially justifying the hypothesis with a hypothetical such as ~they would have released the video by now if it didn’t show poltergeist activity~ or imagining an audio conversation ~Richie just got shot, he’s down! But no one shot the gun, it was just hanging in the air and fired at close range!~

There are sources of information which apply directly to this event which provide a basis for the hypothesis that the altercation started between MC gangs. In fact, there is eyewitness testimony, not only the Cossack leader who saw three Cossacks shot by Bandidos before he escaped the scene. There are sources of information which are consistent with that hypothesis, and none that I have yet seen which are inconsistent with it. Photos, the restaurant video, the dispatch audio. These sources are not hypothetical, they exist independently. Note I am not including LE statements.

In addition, there is information that we do not yet know. For example, a handgun at close range is consistent with a head shot (Richie, Diesel).

The fact that there were head shots does not in itself provide evidence that all those shots came from LE rifles.

Of the 18 wounded, most had gun shots, some also had stab wounds. [The stab wounds are consistent with the gang on gang fighting.]

Yes we can expect rounds from LE rifles. Even LE says that. [Oh, I forgot, what LE says has to be suspect, even if it agrees with other information. By the assertion that LE is lying, there would be therefore no LE rounds.]

For those who also choose to evaluate the LE statements for inconsistencies, please listen to them and do not merely rely upon the summary comments. Again, anyone is welcome to make a verbatim transcript. E.g. sometimes the speaker says building, other times “Twin Peaks” which had been interpreted to mean in the building. The dispatch audio references to “Twin Peaks” mean the site not the building itself.

…The Truth Has No Agenda – Nor does It Care For The Feelings, Position, or Emotion of Those Made Uncomfortable By It…”
from:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/20/waco-biker-gang-twin-peaks-shooting-updates-trying-to-cut-through-the-fog/

Servus, of course.


141 posted on 05/30/2015 7:45:31 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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